Highest Religious of Austria Demands Women's Ordination With Church Rebels

Abt Christian Haidinger calls for end to discrimination against women by the Church

Edit:  "Non Serviam".

(Vienna) The senior abbot of the Austrian Benedictine Abbey of Altenburg, Christian Haidinger, feels himself called since his election as President of the Conference of Superiors of Male Religious Communities in Austria,  to publicly attack the Catholic Church and this, primarily on issues that do not concern him as a monk. In a study conference "Women in the Church. Equal dignity - Equal Rights"  Haidinger again renewed the call for women priests.

Abbot Haidinger  has presided over a Benedictine abbey till last March 14,  he is now Abbot President of the Austrian Benedictine Congregation and President of the aforementioned  Conference of Superiors of Austrian male  religious.  There is no higher religious in the Alpine republic. Elected on 25 November 2013,  as President of Major Superiors, he gave an interview upon his entrance in which he berated the Catholic teaching on marriage as a "disaster" and castigated the Church's handling of remarried divorcees as inhuman. He also called for the abolition of priestly celibacy and the admission of women to the priesthood. Amazing polemical, regarding women priests, even heretical statements that have nothing to do with  Benedictine monastic orders. The ecclesiastical hierarchy was habitually silent on the precipitation of the Abbot President.

Heretical  Trysts and disobedient initiatives with Abbot President

Then  Abbot Haidinger asserted this: the No to women priests, it will not stay. Haidinger  proposed to organizers with the suggestion that the religious "considers it not only possible but urgently desirable for"  women to be ordained. 

Relevantly positioned teams invited last Saturday in St. Pölten for the conference "Women in the Church. Equal dignity - equal rights ". The title was program. The result, which was reflected in a resolution at the end,  was already clear before the beginning. Invited were the heretical organization "We Are Church", the disobedient priests of the "pastor initiative", the left Catholic Catholic Women's Movement Austria (KFBÖ), the notoriously progressive St. Pölten "Forum XXIII.," The group "Priest Without Office" and the same spectrum belonging "Taxhamer Parish Council Initiative". The meeting was also included the "Fall Meeting of Reform Initiatives," which is referred to the left side of the Church itself.

Abbot President Haidinger was thus in a society that is more outside than inside the Church. The perspective can be turned around, making it clear how far heretical and  schismatic positions are penetrated into the Church, of course. Never the less it should be told how far these positions are already recognized in the Church in Austria, when  the bureaucratic, highest religious representative of Austria it taken into account, so  assuredly  moves in these circles and accepts its positions as its own.

I Am "Not Alone": Majority of Theologians for Women Priests, Bishops Also for Frauendiakonat

Event advertised on website of the Diocese of St. Pölten

Haidinger flirted in his talk with the new modesty. As the "little monk" he had nothing to propose to the   question of women, but then he did it. "The time will come when women will also get access to our Church offices, which are now reserved exclusively to men." The Abbot President portrayed himself as the preventive courageous sacrifice, for he foresees that he for his criticism and demands  must "take a beating". There's no sense that this is going to happen, for  In St. Pölten, Haidinger only met with vigorous applause.

But, as the Abbot President, he knew he is  "not alone" in his demands. Actually that is to say that a majority of theologians agree. He even knew of bishops who were in favor, "at least  to admit women to the diaconate." There are "theological reasons" for the admission of women to the ordained ministries. In addition, we have had "encouraging experience" with women in pastoral positions and finally there were "great theologians". There were hurdles but  Abbot Haidinger sees no obstacles for women priests only because of the predictable "great irritation" of the Orthodox, who would burden the ecumenical dialogue.  For his thesis, the abbot appealed to  Pope Francis before the Synod of Bishops  for a  "desired open and frank discussion" in the Church. The Pope himself spoke of a need to "deepen the woman question", said Haidinger.

In addition to the Benedictine Abbot President, the feminist theologian Grazer Frau Fischer spoke. Fischer is a member of the advisory board for the new translation of the "Bible in just language". Petra Steinmair-Pösel talked about "the current situation of young women and theologians in the Church" is based on "The latest material from the sociology of religion studies with Prof. (Paul) Zulehner".  Also, there was an "Experience Report of a Nun" by Sr. Maria Schlackl SDS from Linz, a "Salvatorian of the Passion".

Resolution Calls for "The End of Discrimination Against Women" by the Church

The study meeting called in the final resolution for an  "end discrimination against women" through and in the Church. Those present agreed that the exclusion of women from the priesthood is an "impermissible discrimination" is the true remedy it. Finally, women have "effected and inspired" the Church, which is why their exclusion from ordained ministries is untenable.

The resolution reads: "The exclusion of women from the priesthood is a discrimination that can not blame  Jesus for the argument that he  didn't grant them authority. Already, due to the natural divine law, no discrimination is inadmissible; to turn it off, it does not require any special authority. "

The "Fall Conference" demonstratively ended with a "celebration of the Word of God, which was headed by women". The venue was the formation house St. Hyppolit in the diocese of St. Pölten.

Of the said diocese and the competent diocesan Bishop Klaus Küng (Opus Dei) there has been no opinion on the meeting, the resolution and the appearance of Abbot President Haidinger. On the website of the Diocese the meeting was about the Catholic Women's Movement advertised in the official calendar of events. The Diocese of St. Pölten was headed, until 2004 by the late, militant Bishop Kurt Krenn, who braced himself against heretical positions and was brutally put down by the same circles.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: My district / Hilda Schwameis (Screenshot)

Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com

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Concubinage a Serious Problem With Liberal Clergy in German Areas

Father Gerhard Wagner

(Linz) The situation of the Catholic Church in the German areas,  its weakness in the public debate, trends toward  self-dissolution  and a willingness to oppose the zeitgeist of political correctness and thus succumb to   powers in politics and society,  is only understood by he who understands the clergy. In addition to many loyal and faithful priests and religious, there is a lot of mediocrity, and many "Liberal" priests.  "hearthless priests," said Austrian Priest Gerhard Maria Wagner. And he knows what he's talking about because his home diocese of Linz is the prototype of a progressive diocese.

The Diocese of Linz and Stymying of an Auxiliary Bishop

With a doctorate in dogmatic in 2009 he had been appointed by Pope Benedict XVI. as Auxiliary Bishop of the Diocese of Linz. The "hearthless priests in our diocese have a say," said Wagner, have been understandably not thrilled and blew a storm. A campaign was organized quickly  thanks to a willing media who are always there when it goes against the Catholic Church and a "conservative" church representatives. For some weeks the  contrived indignation was mimed, and firmly supported by full-time officials and many laymen. It was an alliance of the status quo, which as far as possible didn't want any alterations to the liberal laissez-faire situation in the diocese, including the Governor (Chief Minister), a teacher of religion and therefore employees of the diocese, which were  not generally for moderation, but felt particularly called to weighty agitating against the appointed Auxiliary Bishop of Rome. Finally, where would you go, when there is a pious priest who would also be  bishop and does get serious with the faith.

"The Hearthless Priests in Our Diocese Say"

The "hearthless priests" feared that an auxiliary bishop and likely future diocesan Bishop Wagner would put an end to their  traffic with concubines. The campaign was successful, the Austrian cardinal in Rome intervened and made pleas for expediency in the face of an impending upheaval of the  "People of the Church", Rome buckled and demanded obedience of Wagner. Wagner obeyed and offered the renunciation of an office which he had not even begun. Rome could send the request for resignation assuming generosity without losing face. The "peace" in the village was restored. What remains are the "hearthless priests, who call the shots."

The 54 year old Father John Teufl, Franciscans and Parish Provisor of St. Georgen in Attergau lived together with a "friend" for several years. Whoever did something about it, to come to him and talk to him,  he informs the parish for three years.  This is how  loosely some take their disobedience. Who wants to play the grouch. The parishioners know what is asked of them nowadays. You are of course thrilled to be "politically correct". Since Friday last week, the priest has been "submerged".  With his triangular relationship, it is not surprising that the police received three missing person's reports: from the parish, the diocese of Linz and the concubine who is described in the media as a  "partner" or "friend".

Bishop of Basel Allows Blessings of Same Sex Pairs -- Homo-Schism in the Swiss Church?

(Basel) Catholic teaching is clear by divine revelation on the subject of homosexuality. The Bible uses strong words to describe the phenomenon of sexual disorder. Nevertheless, there are Catholic priests who are unfaithful to the Church's teaching and give aberrosexual couples even their blessings. Die Neue Zürcher Zeitung published an article ​​on 28 July calling attention to the contradiction. Adamim, the “Association of Gay Pastors of Switzerland ", another paradox, advertises on its website the “Offer” of homosexual-friendly priests who are willing to also bless aberrosexual couples in a religious ceremony. It would be no exaggeration to assume that among the 20 homoheretical priests that there are at least some active sexually. Such as "Mario, Cath. Pastor” on Adamim’s page, must tell of his aberrosexual history without being a whit ashamed, although he is a Catholic priest.

Aberrosexual Priest Reading of the Bible with “Gay Glasses"

"I had my first boyfriend at 17. Thanks … in the single rooms we were able to live a very close and intimate relationship. Since my childhood ... I wanted to be a priest. This profession has always been very intriguing. At 30 years ... I took my first parish as priest. 15 years ... I had no sexual partner, but masturbated regularly. I was happy ... As a young pastor I fell head over heels with our sacristan. He was 9 years younger than me and not gay. The whole thing was horrible ... passionate for me. I was jealous when he talked with other people. Finally ... I realized that I could no longer keep the whole thing under my cover. It was clear to me that the sacristan, without realizing it, had opened all my gay valves. I only worked… kept to my role and made on action, so in my inner emptiness, and loneliness I felt dry in any spare moments. I ... took a long time out, cured me and started a psychological therapy. Now ... I learned to trust my assessment. I accepted it and tried to incorporate it into my life. I came out to my family and in the pastoral care team. To my great surprise, no one has rejected me. These experiences have made me ... really strong that I even felt the joy of time on my being gay. It's still like that. I stopped now actively looking for a partner. I went for the first time to gay bars and discos. I even made ads in gay magazines. I also met men know and had relationships. That these men also stayed in the rectory and shared time with me, did not bother anyone. There were ... but also crises. The fact that I was a pastor and a public person, also deterred men, and that they could not live with me in general. There was also a time when I wanted to give up the office. There were times when I thought I could never bring my work and my private life under one roof. It was then a gay friend (no sex partner), who had strongly advised me to stay in the church because it would be very important - also for gays, that I as an open gay priest would act out with my homoeroticism. I began to grapple with gay theology. By that time I read the Bible with gay glasses. My relationship with God was different. My religious language was soft and tender. It was clear to me personally that there was a gay variant in the history of creation, and that God was not a homophobe. The topic of homosexuality ... is now public and no longer a taboo. "

Adamim, The Gay Pastor's Association of Switzerland

Everything under the eyes of the competent bishop, who seems to look away from all the "positive experiences".

The association Adamim, based in Bern, is published on its website in open contradiction to Catholic teaching as follows:

We are an active group of gay men in the service of the church: pastors, pastoral workers, priests, catechists, theologians, hospital chaplains, religious ...... from different denominations. Living as a homosexual in the Christian churches is not always easy. As an association, "Adamim", we work in the public sphere so that homosexuality is recognized as a natural variety of human sexuality, and it is the unique ability to love someone of your own sex.

The Catholic "gay pastors" maintain good relations with the Lesbian and gays of church-based Basel (LSBK), an "ecumenical community for all" "gay, lesbian and transgender" with his own "church". The "services" take place at the Elisabethen Church (OKE): "In the spirit of the community-based services they are prepared by alternating teams together with pastors and priests of the three national churches (Reformed, Old Catholic, Roman Catholic). This creates both traditional worship and new and experimental forms. In every service we celebrate a Eucharist or Lord's Supper, "it says on the website of LSBK. The Catholic viewer gets the creeps. The Open Church Erzsébet part of the Evangelical Reformed Church of the City of Basel, which is "fully behind the project".

Basel-based Aberrosexual with Catholic Participation

The website of the Lesbian and Gay Church Base Basel also states: "For several years the OKE is known to be supported by the Roman Catholic Church of the city of Basel. Operating since 1999 at the OKE, Catholic theologian and pastor, wife Eva Südbeck-Baur, as a commitment to OKE and LSBK has given a courageous witness, laying emphasis on her appointment to office, her installation on the 19th of September in 1999 will be celebrated as part of a LSBK-worship." Whatever that says. The fact is that the Roman Catholic Church of the Canton of the City of Basel is co-sponsor of the OKE and also finances this. [With Church-tax] It is also fact that Südbeck-Baur at the Elisabethen Church has celebrated "services" for aberrosexuals. The cantonal church is a peculiarity of Swiss church law.

The Catholic Church of the City of Basel is promoting the Open Churches Erzsébet officially on their website:

You experience new forms of worship and celebrations (...). On Wednesday afternoon pastoral care is offered on Thursday afternoon laying on of hands. (...) The Open Church Erzsébet City is the first church in Switzerland. (...) It offers new, low-threshold access to faith and church, invites, without forcing, those interested and enables new approaches, the challenges of the modern city needs, without losing their profile.

Eva Südbeck-Baur: Homo-service, Inter-Religious Dialogue, Criticism of the Church, Charity

Eva Südbeck-Baur is the example of a "modern" Catholic multi-functional official in service of the Church: the lesbian and gay worship, worship of experimental design, inter-religious dialogue, Christian-Jewish understanding, publications critical of the church by the Caritas staff. Südbeck-Baur in the fall of 2012 left the Open Church Elsbeth and since the beginning, has been primarily employed with Caritas. Together with her ​​husband Wolf Südbeck-Baur is an employee of the newspaper critical of the Church - Independent Journal of Religion and Society[Unabhängige Zeitschrift für Religion und Gesellschaft]. The journal "is interested in what breaks through on the fringes of the denominations and religions" and "exerts a critique of structures and institutions, agencies and individuals, rites and dogmas, anything short of all that prevents religious awakenings." The latest issue of Aufbruch is dedicated to the theme: "Homosexual on the road to equality."

In the Diocese of Basel Church Blessing Celebration for Aberrosexual Couples a Long Practice

In the diocese of Basel "church celebrations" for gomorrist couples have long been the practice. That was under Bishop Kurt Koch [Current Curial Official for Christian Unity] who did nothing about it before he moved to Rome in 2010. Back in November 2003, a Pastoral Conference of Cantonal Church of Basel-Country, a "blessing ceremony" for aberrosexuals was approved by a large majority, although the Swiss Bishops Conference had rejected such. 2004 events were organized in several parishes in the Canton of Basel-Country as completely normal: held for lesbians and gays as in the Parish Center Bruder Klaus in Liesta and the parish center Epiphany in Füllinsdorf . "Partnerships for gays and lesbians still have a hard time finding recognition in our society and in our Church," says one of the Pastoral Conference Basel booklets published, Celebrate the Love? Bless Love. "That's why they needed a sign a binding and strengthening commitment" 'to live the gift of their love as a valuable and liberating gift.'" As early as 21 January 2004 an enthusiastic Basler Zeitung wrote: "Specifically: Gay and lesbian partners have the opportunity to bless their love before a pastor of their confidence. Legally, this blessing really has no legal consequences. But to us, it is about making a mark,' said Father Felix Terrier. "Terrier is pastor of Liestal.

Bishop Gmür Silent on Gay Heresy in His Diocese

While the Bishop of Chur, Vitus Huonder strongly condemned the practice of blessing aberrosexual couples in the Catholic Church by the Neue Zürcher Zeitung, Felix Gmür was conspicuously silent. The Neue Zürcher Zeitung therefore headlined its article with, "Bishop of Basel Tolerates Blessings of Homosexual Couples."

The Catholic People's Party (KVP) of Switzerland sees "a need for clarification regarding its sexual orientation and practice" by Bishop Gmür. In the diocese of Basel, the bishop is elected according to the old Cathedral Chapter and not only suggested. The Pope has the right of confirmation. "The drafting of the profile of requirements of the new bishop was on the side the church's canons, 'required' gender competence," says the Catholic People's Party . As Gmür was elected by the chapter to bishop in 2010, he fell into a conversation with the newspaper Thurgau on the subject of sexuality as a "matter of conscience for each individual," which says everything and nothing. The newspaper knew, but also reported that the new bishop from Rome would work for the abolition of celibacy and the admission of women to the priesthood. Gmür did not intend to defend celibacy. This is not necessary if he "personally" lives a "well ordered" life. Another response that raises more questions than it answers. His toothless dealing with the parish initiative, the Swiss branch of the Austrian and West German Pastors' Initiative comes in a formula to express the act most of the bishops in the German language by the "expansion of dialogue, not sanctions." The formula actually means to suspend the responsibilities and consequences.

Horror Missae: Ordinations of 2011 by Bishop Felix Gmür of Basel: 

Colorful Dub hands instead of Christian symbols on the new priest stoles

Horror Missae with Bishop of Basel - When is The Right Feeling Lost

 Bishop Gmür has already been seen in the middle of an image in the category of Horror Missae. It shows the Basle bishop surrounded by new priests full of colorful stoles with daubed hands. In 2011 he was inaugurated the successor of Cardinal Kurt Koch at the forefront with three new priests of the traditional Swiss Diocese. The ordination took place on 5 June 2011 in Saint-Pierre de Porrentruy. The priests ordained were Romain Gajo, François-Xavier Gindrat and Antoine Dubosson. Four to eleven year old children had designed the stoles. Children understandably do as they are led by adults who should know better. Because we know: not all that well-intentioned, is also well taken.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: LSBK / ADAMIM / Messa in latino (screenshoots)
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com AMGD

Patheos Blogger Gushes Enthusiastically for Call to Action Import

SPLC Blogger Priest

Edit: What hath Patheos to do with Jerusalem? It's pretty clear to a lot of people out there by now that the Neocatholic crowd, which strikes a conservative front, is deep down, truly hostile to Catholicism and loves to attack personalities while it promotes personalities and anti-Catholic agendas like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Indeed, this penchant isn't the sole province of Patheos bloggers, but other long-standing termites at work on the Barque of Peter. In light of Catholic Answers' recent attack on "traditionalism", Patheteos Blogger attacks from "Father" Longenecker and here, among others, it is interesting to note what a former Buddhist and exponent of centering prayer has to say about dissidents and their deviant doctrines, which are usually sidestepped or minimized by other Neocatholic bloggers on Patheos and elsewhere. Let us point out, also, as the author does, that the Austrian dissident priest, Helmut Schüller, is in good standing with the Catholic Church while others, like the Society of St. Pius X, are not.    It's a good thing that Patheos bloggers, even if they aren't particularly orthodox, are also, at least, in good standing with the Church!

Thus we address the recent story about the dissident Pastor's Initiative which is headed by a renegade Austrian priest, Father Helmut Schüller, on a Patheos Blog called On the Way [Or "In the Way"?] by Phil Fox Rose. Fox begins by blandly describing the activities and background of the Pastor's Initiative, which is Austria's Call to Action crowd, some of its reasons for being, and even explained that he himself had attended one of these anti-Church conferences. While he goes to great lengths to describe and enthuse about, Schüller's work, particularly his attacks against the authority of the Church, promotion of aberrosexualism and defiance of Cardinal Schönborn of Vienna, he makes his own allegiances much more clear when he later expresses his disappointment at the fact that most of those in attendance are over 60. He laments that Schüller is restricted to speaking at Protestant churches and believes this is a message Catholics need to hear. You will remember that Cardinal Sean of Boston doesn't even want this Austrian carpetbagger around.

Fox enthuses about Cardinal Schönborn's inaction:

Some of this, perhaps, is possible because of Cardinal Schönborn’s open-mindedness – it’s hard to imagine the same being tolerated in most American dioceses. In fact, because it’s been made clear his message is unwelcome and several local bishops have forbidden him to appear on church property, all the venues for Schüller’s American tour are Protestant churches or secular buildings except one, Chestnut Hill College in Philadelphia, which is hosting him in active defiance of Archbishop Chaput. As Schüller said on Tuesday at Judson Memorial Church in Manhattan, this is not a problem for him, but it is a problem for American Catholics. It is not a prohibition of him to speak — he can speak anywhere. It’s really an attempt to prohibit the Catholic laity from listening to his message.

He later expresses his pleasure in the comments to a dissident nun, that there are young people participating in this We Are Church disobedience.

Sr. Christine, I'm delighted to hear about the involvement of young adult Catholics. I was reacting to what I saw at the New York event as well as Fr. Schuller's own remarks on the subject, but it is encouraging to hear that there is a serious young adult component nationally. On the Eucharist without a priest present, I did understand that Fr. Schuller meant using bread previously consecrated by a priest. I intended the term "Eucharist" to refer to the consecrated host, not to the mass, and called it "communion services" elsewhere in the piece. I've changed the wording in that one case to avoid confusion. Thanks for pointing it out. I appreciate your comments. Peace, Phil

Schüller Banned in Boston -- "Ultimatum" to SSPX in Regensburg

(Washington / Regensburg) "Helmut Schüller takes positions contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church and therefore may not speak in any community of the Diocese." By that reasoning, the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Sean O'Malley gave the Austrian Helmut Schüller, a rebel priests in his archdiocese banned from appearing. Schüller was to speak on July 17th in Boston. The former Vicar General of Vienna and leader of the rebel group called Austrian Priest Initiative with branches in Germany and Switzerland, is touring from July 15th to the 7th of August in the U.S. and expects to appear in public in nine states.

He was invited by the schismatic spectrum of radically progressive circles. Considered in the secular world to be the hardliners of thed left wing church. It is considered controversial whether these groups are still part of the Catholic Church: Call to Action, Catholics s Alliance for the Common Good, Corpus, DignityUSA, Future Church, National Coalition of American Nuns, Nuevo Ways Ministry, Voice of the Faithful, Quixote Center, Women's Ordination Conference.

Schüller's Ban Does no "Damage" to the Church

The decision by Cardinal O'Malley received strong encouragement from faithful church circles that are sorry that some believe in the Church, to have free rein, taking advantage of brotherhood and charity. It has the more weight, as the Cardinal was appointed by Pope Francis to the eight-headed Cardinal group to advise him on the leadership of the Church.

"This is a huge injury to the body of Christ, the people of God," writes the progressive Catholic website Religion Digital about this. That the Cardinal has banned a priest who publicly calls for "disobedience" for his role against the teaching and discipline of the Church, has "harmed" the Church, has been described by the Spanish church historian Francisco de la Cigoña as "nonsense." It was a "duty" of a bishop to protect his flock from division and false prophets.

When do German-speaking Bishops Show Most Determination?

In Germany, the bishops of several dioceses imposed a ban, including Bamberg, Eichstätt and Hildesheim, on an appearance in the Spring against Schüller. As a true rebel it doesn't bother him much. In Nuremberg, a kindred spirit in the clerical habit nevertheless made his church available. For Schuller, who comes from abroad, this is easier. But how is it with the determinations of the bishops against their own disobedient priests? How long will the bishops tolerate an open rebellion as merely flirting with the zeitgeist? No one immediately calls for sanctions. The church has previously employed fraternal forms in dealing with error. However, if it becomes apparent that it is stubbornness, to soar the rebels "morally" and "essentially" jump over the Church, and thus disclosed the doctrine of the Church and its authority to mockery, then the bishops are required, because then there is imminent danger.

Faithful Catholics are waiting in vain for clear measures against the schismatic bishops, priests disobedient rebels in concubinage. The most "stringent" action recently was that an Austrian priest rebel, at the direction of Archbishop Christoph Cardinal Schönborn of Vienna, when could not be elected dean. Compared with the SSPX on the other hand, the bishops have always brave.

The new Bishop of Regensburg Rudolf Voderholzer, yesterday told Munich Radio Church , that he was expecting to give an "ultimatum" to the SSPX. The next step would be excommunication. The Bishop of Regensburg spoke as chief shepherd of his diocese, and did so without a doubt what is rightfully his to do.

Of an "ultimatum" to progressive rebel groups, such as the Pastors Initiative operating since 2006, however, is something completely unheard of. Although the degree of confusion, incited by the rebels in the German Church is objectively greater by far than it could ever have been instigated by the SSPX. This creates the impression that there is a double standard.

Critical Approach to Council Required for Renewal of the Church

Considering the published opinion of Bishop Voderholzer at Radio Vatican it should be noted: the German bishops should not be behind Rome and Pope Benedict XVI. and remain critical from the Second Vatican Council. After 50 years, the impression should be avoided above all, that the Council should not be criticized.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi Image: La cigüeña de la torre / catholictippingpoint.org Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com AMGD

Cardinal Brandmuller Recommends Tough Measures Against Schismatic Austrians

Edit: What with the way that the Swiss Catholic Bishops are treating the Rome-true Bishop Huonder these days, things are starting to well up from beneath the surface and the cracks are forming around the edifice as significant portions of the Church in the German speaking zone threaten to break off to form their own time-kept projects.

According to Chiesa, Cardinal  Brandmüller [83] is recommending sterner measures against the dissidents fomenting rebellion.

 A few days ago, we translated an article about a similar priest rebellion from kreuz.net which developed in Bohemia and Slovakia in 1908. That rebellion involved not a mere 400 signators of an internet petition, as is the case with the present schismatic "Pastor's Initiative" in Austria, but held 1300 priests in Czechoslovakia. The schism still exists today and contains about 100,000 members. Despite having many points in common with the Pastor's Initiative, they are still waiting for a change from Rome.

 Clearly, a certain  Bishop of Regensburg should be eager to take some lessons from history his own past notwithstanding,  if he intends to be the next to fill the shoes of Cardinal Levada, President of the Congregation for the Doctrine and the Faith.

VATICAN CITY, March 20, 2012 – "How a schism was born": this is the title of an article that appeared recently in "L'Osservatore Romano" with the byline of the Bavarian cardinal Walter Brandmüller (in the photo). An article with an historical slant, but with explicit references to current events.

An article that from the very beginning recalls the anti-Roman movement "Los von Rom" that emerged in Austria between the 19th and 20th century, which "was able to drive about a hundred thousand Austrian Catholics to separate from the Church."

This movement – the cardinal continues, coming up to the present – "was revived following Vatican Council II." But not only that. "Similar tendencies seem to be reemerging from time to time in our days as well, in some of the appeals for disobedience toward the pope and the bishops.."

Chiesa...

How Benedict XV Dealt With Czech Dissidents in 1919

About a hundred years ago there was a "Pastor's Initiative" of about 1200 priests against celibacy.  Rome reacted quickly and with great effectiveness.

The Main Church of the
Neo-Hussites in Prague

(kreuz.net)  Calls from clerics, who are disobedient to the hierarchy, is nothing new.

This was revealed by the Bavaria born Church historian, Cardinal Walter Brandmuller (83), in an article for the Catholic newspaer 'Tagespost'.

The Cardinal recalled a revolt of clerics which took place in Bohemia at the beginning of the twentieth century and spread to Slovakia.

Without Jews, without Rome, we'll build the German Cathedral.


Cardinal Brandmuller explained about how the turn of the nineteenth century there was a "Break Away from Rome Movement" present in Austria.

The initiator was Georg Ritter von Schönerer († 1921).

He used anti-clerical and antisemitic ideas: "Without Jews, without Rome, we'll build a German Cathedral home."

This was the genesis of the National Socialists.

After a decade the propaganda persuaded then around a hundred thousand Austrian Catholics.

This movement found a sequel a half-century later -- said Cardinal Brandmuller: "in the turbulent time after the Second Vatican Council by the adherents of "We Are Church", "Church From Below" and the circles around the "Kirchenvolkbegehren [Church People Seeking Reform].

The Demand Was Changed After the Council


A similar parallel to the Austrian one man show 'Pastor Initiative' is what Cardinal Brandmuller sees in the "Czech-Hussite National Church".  They existed in the years after the First World War.

Czech clerics revolted after the collapse of the Habsburg Monarchy firstly against the Episcopate.

After that they demanded a supposedly democratized and Rome-independent National Church.

The movement called itself 'Jednota'.  They wanted a Liturgy in the national language, a shortened Breviary and married priests.

Additionally they demanded to elect their own Bishops by the clergy and the people, a democratization of the Church constitution and the abolition of clerical clothing.

Rome Reacts

At the end of February 1919 the Viennese Nuncio Teodoro Valfre di Bonzo (+1922) traveled to Prague, in order to form a picture of the situation.

In June 1919 delegates of 'Jednota' were invited by the Pope to Rome.

In the mean time, the Nuncio informed the Vatican State Secretary, Pietro Cardinal Gasparri (+1934).

The Nuncio promoted  an unmistakable and decisive  position against 'Jednota'.

The rebels were not won over by concessions.  Giving away would have only further disturbed the faithful.

The 'Jednota' -- demands -- especially for married priests -- were decisively rejected.

The sending of a 'Jednota'-delegation to Rome led, according to Cardinal Brandmuller, to a division of  minds.

For example, the theological faculty of the University of Prague had distanced itself from its Dean, who had participated in the 'Jednota' delegation.

1,200 Want End to Priestly Celibacy

As the next development was completed, a radicalization of the group took place, said the Cardinal.  These named themselves from then on as 'Ohnisko' -- for burn point.

Their members were already decided even before the trip of 'Jednota'- Delegation to Rome,  were prepared to transact their demands in case of a Roman rejection.

In August 1919 'Ohnisko' called upon Catholic Priests to marry civilly.

As one of the first steps, fallen priest Bohumil Zahradnik acted.   In any case he was already living in concubinage for ten years.

The 'Ohnisko'- priests were addressed by the State authorities and compensated.

In September 1919 they attempted to get a dispensation for a very large number, 1,200 priests from celibacy.

The National Church was Proclaimed

On January 8th of 1920 the anti-clerical Czech government declared a "Czechoslovakian Church".

As Patriarch, the lapsed priest, a certain Karel Farsky (+1927) was elected.

This National Church represented Modernism.

A Catechism by Farksy maintained that Jesus was only a son of God in the same sense that all men were sons of God.

Christ is only the greatest of prophets.

For Cardinal Brandmuller it was thoroughly clear that the roots of the problem lay deeper than in the area of practical, disciplinary changes:

"A large part of the clergy were in a shattering crisis of their Catholic Faith."

Rome Came with a Heavy Hand


A week after the founding of the State Church -- on the 15th of January 1920-- the Holy See condemned the schismatic coalition and anathematized them.

Priests who belonged to the National Church, were in any case in excommunicated automatically in all senses.

Benedict XV. insisted in a letter of the 29th of January 1920, that there was never an agreement on priestly marriage.

The Czech Bishops had shown themselves equal to the situation -- and he was grateful for the decisive shepherds.

The Church's Censure Showed Itself as the Right Way


In an address at the end of the year in 1920, Pope Benedict XV stressed that Rome would not endeavor making the rule regarding celibacy any less stringent.

Any deviating assertions are misleading.

It is clear that the Church has priestly celibacy to thank for a great part of Her power.

It must be wholely and entirely unaltered.

That  is " never before has it been more necessary in these times of moral degredation and unchecked vice" -- said the Pope on the eve of National Socialism and Fascism.

It will never happen that "this Holy Apostolic See will enfeeble or abolish this most holy law of priestly celibacy in any manner."

Back then: The Church Oriented Itself on Reality


Cardinal Brandmuller praised Romes decisive proceedings against the Czech rebels:  "There was an understanding that set in that this was something that couldn't be won by negotiations."

The rebels wanted to alter the foundations of the Catholic Faith and of Christendom.

That was shown, among other things, in a popular census in 1921.

According to that 3.2 percent of Czechs belonged to the State sponsored Church.

The other part of Catholics -- about 76.3 percent of the population -- remained Catholic.

Today, the rebel society calls itself the 'Czech-Hussite Church'.

They count on paper around 100,000 demoralized members.

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Two Things Move Vienna's Cardinal: Fear and Praise

What is the main problem of the Old Liberal "Pastor's Initiative" in the view of the Cardinal?  They have sounded their reputation far beyond Austria.

(kreuz.net, Wien) The Old Liberal 'Pastor's Initiative' has done enormous damage to the Austrian Church in the Catholic milieu worldwide.

The Old Liberal Cardinal, Christoph von Schönborn explained, according to the news agency, 'kathpress".

Apparently, the Cardinal meant to identify the "Austrian Church" with his own reputation.

A life for the headlines


The Authors of the "Call to Disobedience" do not appreciate the damage they have caused.

The Cardinal put that in for appearance's sake.

There were international headlines like: "Difficulties in Austria."

Or, "Church in Austria in Crisis", "Church in Austria on the Brink of Schism" and:  "Priests call for disobedience."

The Cardinal is concerned about outer appearances

The Cardinal considers the effects of the 'Pastor's Initiative' as an "unbelievably negative input" in the "Church image" of Austria.

He stayed with these formulations which stay so closely the superficialities which are so important to him.

He actually holds the imaginary problems of the 'Pastor's Initiative' for real.

He only wants to undertake "solutions in other directions".

At the same time, the Cardinal wants to take "headwinds" -- as long as they come from the Old Liberal side -- "in a sporting way":

"Without the wind there is no sailing, and when contrary winds occur there has to be some shifting, that is creative or inspiring."

In Vienna everything goes -- unless it's Catholic


The Cardinal signaled his full support with the usual weaselly vocabulary.

It requires "workable solutions" with the world Church.

Cardinal von Schönborn encouraged the Old Liberals to examine closely what has happened in order to see what "has already happened and what also can be done."

It has already happened that prominent Vienese adulterers have had their union blessed with the agreement of the Cardinal and have thus been confirmed in their mortal sin.

Other adulterers could add themselves in the great churches of Vienna.

On the other hand, the Archdiocese denied a Priest of the Society of St. Pius X from saying his first Mass at a Viennese church, although the parish pastor had requested permission.


The Germans praise Austria's wheelchair reform


The Cardinal shows that his "reform process" is an apparent break.

This has especially caught the attention of the -- Old Liberal -- German Bishops, he said, discrediting himself.

A central figure of his church regime is the person he appointed to be Director of the Pastoral Office, Veronika Veronika Prüller-Jagenteufel.

She is a declared feminist ideologue and student of the long arm of the media bosses, Father Micheal Zuhehner.

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