Bergoglians Insist the Youth Synod Will Tackle GLBTQ-P

Edit: while Bergoglio and the shrinking circle of effeminates closest to him are being arrested or hounded by the media, their fabulous world collapsing around them, they continue to conspire to cover up sex abuse and stonewall their responsibility for undermining the Church founded by Christ.

And I'm not the only one who sees it this way.

This whole thing is grooming on a grand scale.  This from our friends at Missa in Latino:

Mala tempora currunt. We hope that the Holy Spirit will get in the way

[Missa in Latino]  Il Messaggero , 17-10-18 Vatican City - With all due respect to those conservative bishops and cardinals hoping that the issue of gay marriage will be kept away from the Youth Synod, the Vatican has confirmed that it will be dealt with instead. «It has been said that the themes of homosexuality and same-sex marriages can not be left out of pastoral care», said the new Prefect of Communications Paolo Ruffini, reporting on the issues addressed in the last meetings of the plenary sessions of the Synod. In the past months, Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops, had anticipated that there would be no taboo subjects, starting from the expression "LGBT youth," an acronym never used previously in documents by the Church, and included in the document for basic work for discussion. In these days there were some synod fathers, like the Archbishop Chaput of Philadelphia who had affirmed his opposition in his speech.

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Synod: "Overwhelming Majority Are Against Communion for the Remarried Divorced"

(Rome) Matteo Matzuzzi, the Vatican expert of the daily newspaper Il Foglio wrote to 14:52 on Twitter: "++ Overwhelming majority against Communion for remarried divorcees, according to sources in the Synod ++"

Just a few minutes earlier Sebastien Maillard, the Vatican expert of the daily newspaper La Croix, had tweeted the French Bishops' Conference:

"Overwhelming majority against the Communion for remarried divorcees, according to observers in the Synod Hall"

In another Tweet Matzuzzi wrote at 3 o'clock: "In the end everything is a matter of numbers. One begins to  count  ... "

Voters during the Synod as they also took place in the past year,  were not provided  for by Pope Francis for this Synod. That was a point which the thirteen Synodal Cardinals criticized  in their complaint letter to the Pope. The intermediate votes before the final vote on the Relatio finalis at the end of the Synod serve an orientation of the Synod, to which direction to go to see the positions on an issue.

Should the vote be confirmed, this would mean that the Synod Fathers were able to free themselves from the Synod Director. Today's vote was all just an orientation that, however, anticipates the final vote on  the topic. The final vote is scheduled for next Saturday, 24 October.

It has long been  unclear how the final vote will be held. The Cardinals complaining expressed concern that the Pope let the Synod vote only in the block, and not on the individual sections. The Synod General, Cardinal Baldisseri assured Cardinal Pell last week, that the paragraph will be voted on by paragraph. Still, there is no certainty as of yet. 

Overall, there is a lack of clarity in the air, as to whether the Synod will end at all. It was the closest confidants of the Pope,  Cardinals Baldisseri and Tagle, who wished for ambiguity. Will the Relatio finalis be published? Will there be a Post-Synodal Letter? The speech of Pope Francis last Saturday at the ceremony marking the 50th anniversary of the introduction of the Synod of Bishops, and an interview published yesterday of Cardinal Walter Kasper certainly provides for new uncertainty.

Cardinal Kasper indicated that a Post-synodal letter may be long in coming, but it should announce the admission of remarried divorcees to Communion in a statement by the Pope. Since Kasper  is one of the closest confidants of the pope in the matter, his statement could be less of an invitation to the pope, and rather more of  an announcement of what the pope has intended all along. At least this option can not be ruled out  in view of the recent course of the Synod.

The same applies to the Pope's appeal of wanting to decentralize the Church. Roberto de Mattei drew attention to the fact that decentralization could serve as a "way out" of the impasse in which the progressive camp sits when the Synod majority pronouncess itself against "new Mercy." Then, instead of the synodality being stressed,  decentralization would be entered into. In other words, Africa could then retain the Catholic teaching on marriage, while the western episcopal conferences practice a liberal openness?

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Bild: Twitter/Matteo Matzuzzi

Eleven Cardinals Climb into the Ring Against the Kasperians -- The Voice of Africa Will Also be Heard

(Rome) "Remain in the truth of Christ" The publication of the book was accompanied in 2014 by heated polemics. Back then  five cardinals and several theologians worked on   the anthology. The initiator of the relevant publication and spokesman for the defense of Catholic moral teaching on marriage and the Synod was US Cardinal Raymond Burke. He was subsequently relieved of his duties of Dicastery head by Pope Francis and removed from the Roman Curia. It was a clear signal of what is tolerated and what is not desirable, though it was not necessarily with the desired effect. Now comes another book with the same concerns. This time  it will be even eleven cardinals who step into the ring. If their book gets same fate as its predecessor, which had been so unwelcome in Rome that it never reached the synod?

Kasper's "Conspiracy"

In 2014 even the publishers who produced the book in different languages, were accused of participating in a "conspiracy against the Pope". Cardinal Walter Kasper said openly it in an interview on September 18, 2014: "The aim of the polemic is not me, but the Pope". It may be that this is a question of a defense strategy: It involves securing one higher than himself for  his protection and by his authority bring critics to silence.  The conspiracy thesis caused considerable outrage among other high dignitaries of the Church, which was a  means of discrediting the former Bishop of Rottenburg-Stuttgart.

The German cardinal was, however, not far wrong by referring to Pope Francis. Without the participation of the Argentine Pope, it would not come  that the Kasperians  got such a global platform. Cardinal De Paolis, one of the five involved in the former book, reiterated this, without naming Kasper. In the daily newspaper La Repubblica he said: "There are even some who speak of a conspiracy. There is no conspiracy; bring only the will a position to expression."

In 2014 Non-Kasperians were silenced - 2015?

Someone wanted in any case bring the dissenting voices to silence because they disturbed a path that was  already clearly laid down, even though the pope had called for a "free" discussion.  This "openness" was only valid in only one direction, while calls for "free" discussion on the other side an admonition? Or are there those under the Pope around Cardinal  working autonomously  and using only the large gates that the reigning Pope has opened? After all, all important positions   of the Synod of Church representatives are held by those  who have themselves known through their statements and actions as Kasperians.

As La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana reported yesterday, the script could be repeated. It is true that a group of cardinals has worked on a new text that is to be opposed to opposing Kasper Group in the Synod of Bishops. The new book is likely the to bear the title "Marriage and Family"  with the subtitle: "Pastoral Prospects of Eleven Cardinals." The group of Cardinals who are actively opposing has increased markedly over the previous year. Moreover, considering the considerable number of eleven cardinals, and that those churchmen witch most insight, see the possibility of a real threat of the Catholic marriage and morality, so there is thus not a "pipe dream" concerning anxious or even extravagant Catholics somewhere off in the wide world.

Eleven Cardinals Defend "Marriage and Family" against Kasper with new book

Among the eleven cardinals, however, there are to be found - unlike rumor claims - neither Burke nor Cardinal Cardinal Brandmüller but Archbishop Cardinal Carlo Caffarra of Bologna, Major Archbishop Cardinal Baselios Cleemis of the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church and president of the Indian Bishops' Conference; Paul Josef Cardinal Cordes, Chairman Emeritus of the Pontifical Council Cor Unum ; Archbishop Dominik Duka of Prague, Cardinal, Primate of Bohemia and President of the Czech Bishops' Conference; Archbishop Willem Jacobus Eijk of Utrecht, Cardinal; Cardinal Joachim Meisner, Archbishop Emeritus of Cologne; Archbishop John Cardinal Olorunfemi Onaiyekan of Abuja, former President of the Symposium of Episcopal Conferences of Africa and Madagascar; Cardinal Antonio Maria Rouco Varela, Archbishop Emeritus of Madrid and former president of the Spanish Bishops' Conference; Camillo Cardinal Ruini, Vicar of Rome, Cardinal emeritus and former President of the Italian Bishops' Conference; Robert Cardinal Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments; Archbishop Jorge Liberato Urosa Savino of Caracas, Cardinal and Primate of Venezuela.

"In Times of Increasing arbitrariness, the Church Must Speak More Clearly"

The editor of the book is the German canon lawyer, Winfried Ayman from the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich. Last June, Aymans wrote in L'Osservatore Romano, "in times when civil law increasingly tends to expose the marriage contract to arbitrariness, in any event  increases in every way, the preaching of the Church must be all the more clear."

Also in this case, again all are accused of obstructing the debate or - worse - to oppose the Pope or even plotting against this? Someone there will certainly try. However, the number of cardinals who were already in the ring in 2014 has increased   and those who have now followed seem unwilling to vacate the field. Their very large number should be food for thought. With so many Cardinals seeing the need to publicly defend the Church's teaching, then that can mean only one thing: someone is trying to  attack this doctrine. Cardinals from Burke to Brandmüller, and Caffarra onward to Onaiyekan and Sarah will attempt to frustrate them.

Beat Kasper on His Own Field: Pastoral

The eleven cardinals want, as far as it is known, to beat Kasper on the battlefield chosen by him, the pastoral. The German cardinal asserted and continues assert that he will not touch  doctrine, but is "only" trying to change the Pastoral approach.  Meanwhile, this thesis has been widely refuted as a fundamental intervention in the pastoral, will be automatically chang the teaching by the general practice. [That's how Vatican II was "won"]  The eleven Cardinals deal with issues such as those who can be helped, like those who have been abandoned by their spouse and yet remain faithful to their marriage. A key issue of the new publication should be that   marriage preparation can be improved,  since it  has proven to be obviously inadequate. It is also about the question of how the marriage preparation can respond to the situation only slightly or hardly,  when the religiously instructed young people are also strongly influenced by a secularized culture.

The publication of the book is scheduled for the second half of September. In Italy it is, as foreseen, to be released by the heavily besieged  publisher Cantagalli. There are, again, planned translations into different languages. We can only hope that the attempt to get the book of eleven Cardinals to all synod participants, will be successful this time.  The Book of Five Cardinals never came last year to  the synod. The fault  must belong to the post office, insists Cardinal Baldisseri,   the Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops. Others suspect rather that the Synod Director prevented the delivery, in plain text, Baldisseri himself.

Nova Patria Christ Africa

Just as before,  the issue in the room, is who is the great director in the background. Quite a few tap Pope Francis himself, who has not yet officially commented on the question of communion for the divorced and remarried. However, a long series of indirect statements, gestures and actions show him as a supporter of Cardinal Kasper and its thesis.

Another book will be released to the Synod of Bishops, which also has eleven cardinals and bishops for authors. All are from Africa and want to make the voice of Africa heard with the publication of the book.  It is a continent that is determined to fight for Catholic marriage and morality and is showing itself  a "nova patria Christ Africa".

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: Nuova Bussola Quotidiana
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
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Bishop Synod: Cardinal Baldisseri and Archbishop Paglia Report to Pope Francis

(Rome) On January 28, Pope Francis has received the General of the Synod of Bishops , Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri in audience. He was received with   the Under Secretary of the Synod of Bishops, Curia Bishop Fabio Fabene. Baldisseri was before his appointment and being made Cardinal, Secretary of the College of Cardinals, Fabene was Deputy Bureau Chief of the Secretariat of the College of Cardinals.

Today, Friday, the President of  the Pontifical Council for the Family, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia Curia, was received in audience.

From 22th-24th January a Conference was held in advance of the Synod of Bishops on the family for next October in Rome. The Pontifical Council on Family had invited more than 80 of the world's most important Catholic laymen in the family area. The declared aim was to hear the opinion of lay representatives on the subject of the Synod. Cardinal Baldisseri was also present.

Unlike what was evidently expected, the lay movements almost unanimously rejected from the "new family" agenda of the Kasper-line. This provoked a violent slugfest between the angry Cardinal Baldisseri and lay representatives.

Neither the Pontifical Council on Family, the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops nor the Press Office of the Vatican published an explanation after. Following the official Vatican pronouncements, one might get the impression that the meeting never took place.

The audiences for Cardinal Baldisseri, Curial Bishop Fabene and Curial Archbishop Paglia were in connection with the preparation of the final Synod of Bishops on the Family. The Curia representatives meeting  Pope Francis, apparently  were to inform him, inter alia, on the course of the conference with the lay movements.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: vatican.va (screenshot)

Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com

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Cardinal Baldisseri Undermines Catholic Teaching on Marriage -- But the Laymovements Say "No, Thank You" to Kasper-line

Cardinal Kasper Baldisseri and the agenda of Pope Francis: Listen to the laity, but silence them,
 if they do not say what you want?

(Rome) Preparations continue for the Synod of Bishops on the family in 2015. The Pontifical Family Council has invited  the leaders of the world's most important Catholic layity to Rome to hear their views on the 46 questions of the new questionnaire from 22 to 24th January, which will be the basis of the Instrumentum laboris  of the Synod. But the result was not as Cardinal Baldisseri, the Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops had planned.  The cardinal, who acted as an extended arm of Pope Francis at the Synod of Bishops in 2014, was angry and broke out with rage in his statements against the lay representatives.

Lay movements: Yes to Loving Acceptance, but No to Communion without the State of Grace

Everything went down very discreetly. The communicative Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops, Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, appointed by Pope Francis, made no public announcements.  This seems to have to do with the fact that the outcome of the hearing did not meet the expectations of the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops. The priest Santiago Martín, founder of the Franciscans of Mary conceived the opinions of lay associations in an essay titled: "Catholic Laity: Discount, No thanks!."

"Virtually all lay movements represented in Rome have spoken out in favor of retaining the traditional doctrine." The outcome of the hearing "would not clear and may be clearer. Practically the whole of those present in Rome, about eighty movements, including the most significant and most members who have spoken in favor of retaining the traditional doctrine. Everyone says that the process of marriage annulments  should be accelerated, but without making a Catholic divorce of it, and that the divorcee is to be met with great love, so that they do not feel excluded from the Church, but without prejudice to the Eucharist becoming devalued and are not allowed access to Communion without being in a state of grace. The base has clearly said, 'Discount, no thank you!' "

Frankness of the Laity, Who do not Like Rome - Cardinal Baldisseri's Indignant Reaction

Cardinal Baldisseri

Laymen were posseed of that those frankness claimed, the Pope Francis in his welcome address had called for the opening of the Synod of Bishops on October 6, 2014. A frankness that a group of cardinals at the Synod revealed by defending Catholic doctrine against the papal supported Kasper-line. Even at the risk, thereby to fall into disgrace with Pope Francis, who actually made ​​an example by the Synod on the Word of leader of the defenders of the indissolubility of marriage.

Accordingly,  Cardinal Baldisseri, the Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops reacted angrily to the opinions of the laity. He defended the "right" of Cardinal Kasper against criticism of the laity, to require the approval of adulterers to communion. Cardinal Baldisseri spoke not of adulterers, but of "divorced persons who live in relationships unrecognized by the Church."

Baldisseri: Jesus' Words "Can be Called into Question"

Baldisseri contradicted the lay representatives, and they should "not be surprised", because there are theologians who oppose the teaching of the Church. What was understood by those present was that the Cardinal wanted to say that the Church's teaching is not so clear on the point.

Finally Baldisseri claimed that the dogmas of the Church "evolved" and that "there is no point to hold a synod, if you then just repeat what was always said."

But indignation among those present broke Baldisseris final assertion: "Just because a certain understanding 2000 years ago was in a place that does not mean that it can not be called into question."

Layman Says Words of Jesus Christ are "Immutable Law" and "Can not be Called into Question"

The lay representatives could not wait to give their  ​​reaction. Patrick Buckley, the international representative of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children commenting on the statements Cardinal Baldisseris, said:

"The Church's teaching on the indissolubility of marriage is based on the words of Jesus Christ. These words may have been spoken 2000 years ago, but remain an immutable law of God for the Catholics, nothing more and nothing less. "

Mary Madise, director of Voice of  the Family said: "Cardinal Baldisseri has publicly corrected one delegate, who protested the attacks against the Catholic doctrine. Unmistakably, the same thing did not happen not so shortly afterwards, where another delegate denied the Church's teaching on contraception. One had the impression that there is only one sin today, the defense of what the Church has always taught. "

"Sophistry of Professional Dissidents Does Not Help Suffering Families"

About the overall climate regarding the hearing from   the Roman position, Madise said: "It seemed as if one could discuss just about everything at this conference, including  questions that have already been clarified by the Magisterium of the Church. Such a debate distracts from the task of finding real solutions to the problems encountered by the families really face. The serious evils such as abortion, euthanasia and the attacks on the rights of parents was barely touched on in the discussion. These are some of the key issues that were incidentally also ignores the final report of the Synod in 2014. The suffering  of families is not helped by the subtleties of professional dissenters, whether these are church leaders or laity. "

Voice of the Family called for, considering the "shocking experience" a few days ago in Rome, all Catholics to unite in prayer so the Catholic doctrine affirms marriage and family in any document of the Pontifical Family Council in the wake of the conference and when the Synod of Bishops is formulated in the fall.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: InfoVaticana
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
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Pope Francis Passes Notes to Cardinal Baldisseri

Edit:  do I have to separate you two?

(Rome) What is on the piece of paper written by Pope Francis  handed to the Secretary of the Synod, Cardinal Baldisseri in the Synod Hall?

The Pope, who participates in the General Congregations, but doesn't speak, reaches again and again for a fountain pen and writes something on scraps of paper, which he then can deliver to Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri. "This is not a possible wish, but I would not pay just a  little to know what is written on the piece of paper which Pope Francis wrote  and  sent to the Secretary General of the Synod," said the Vatican expert Marco Tosatti.

Pope Francis Giving Directions on How the Synod is to Run?

The cardinal read the slips of paper   supplied, wrote something under it and sent it back to the Pope, who stuck it in his pocket. So Tosatti describes the flow of messages list, the number of times since the beginning of the Synod repeated every day. The exchange could not be hidden from the  attentive synod participants. Especially not during the remarks given by Cardinal Burke and Müller, as an attack on marriage teaching of the Church was in the air.

The series of messages convey the impression that the Pope is giving instructions to the Synod Secretary. Who, when the instructions can or should address? It is known that Pope Francis has placed people loyal to him at all strategic positions of the Bishops' Synod. This includes Cardinal Baldisseri as Archbishop Forte to name just two.

Among the Synod Participants Themselves,  Resentment is Spreading - Interim Report "Unacceptable"

Since the beginning of this week, the Synod no longer convenes in Assembly, but separated according to language groups. Among the synod fathers discontent is spreading. First,  every day it is more apparent that what the media reports, does not correspond to what actually happens in the Synod and a direction that is favored by Cardinal Kasper. Then there came the interim report of Cardinal Peter Erdo, in which many members of the synod do not recognize.

41 synod participants came forward to speak after the announcement of the Interim report in the Synod Hall, including  Cardinals Pell, Ouellet, Müller, Caffarra, Scola, Dolan, Filoni, Vingt-Trois, Burke, Rylko and all spoke out against Kasper's proposal, who also spoke. They criticized the ambiguity of the entire report and the homophilic statements, had   called for a clear statement of the truth about marriage and the family, a clear statement against abortion and against artificial insemination.

Cardinal Erdo, Himself Amazed,  Points to "Homo" Passage by Archbishop Forte

The interim report has been signed by Erdo, the Archbishop of Esztergom-Budapest, but was written by others. These "others", were officials hand-picked by Pope Francis. Erdo was apparently astonished, and he told the press conference that the text part did not come from him and pointed to Archbishop Bruno Forte as the author of the controversial passage about homosexuality.

In the discussions the Synod Fathers are talking about two different synods: One is the actual Synod and then a desired one, a manipulated Synod. Cardinal Müller already hinted last week that manipulation is in play. Cardinal Burke has said it now openly. Archbishop Gadecki, the chairman of the Polish Bishops' Conference unmistakably expressed his displeasure. For this purpose, he used the Polish section of Radio Vatican, the only one open to him, as the President of the Polish Bishops, which could not be closed, however,  as has been happening with the other language groups. The interim report was "unacceptable for many bishops unacceptable," he said, as he brought his opinion to the point.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: InfoVaticana

Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com

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How Will I Manipulate the Bishops' Synod? -- Action Plan Against the Sacrament of Marriage

Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri Upon Receiving
His Red Hat

(Rome) The Vatican expert Marco Tosatti has reported a detailed plan for the manipulation of the Synod of Bishops for the purposes of Cardinal Walter Kasper's "New Mercy" approval of remarried divorcees to Communion. The definition starts from the civil aspect and is thus erroneous for the Church discussion. What  the state can call remarried divorcees, are adulterers for the Church.

Tosatti will not use the name of the senior church representative who divulged the plan in merry company. It was not  Cardinal Kasper, who would barely run with such frivolity  and would have no decision-making power in a simple Synod to perform procedural maneuvers.

Read from the context, and in light of his past and recent statements, there is some evidence for Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, the Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops.  Baldisseri is one of those Church leaders who have experienced under Pope Francis, sharply rising career. Francis made him a cardinal, and put him in an important position of trust. Assuming that Pope Francis is a key player for the softening of the sacrament of marriage itself and the Synod of Bishops is the central instrument for its implementation, then the General Secretary of the Synod has a key strategic role.

Marco Tosatti published its report in the daily newspaper La Stampa on 20 September.

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Synod: how do I maneuver it ...

by Marco Tosatti

The Synod of Bishops will speak about many things, but the mass media will probably speak only about one: the opportunity for  married persons who are divorced civilly, whose marriage was not annulled by the church but still got married in a civil ceremony one more time, to be admitted never the less to communion. . And there is a plan to maneuver the Synod ...

It is already happening in a number of cases where priests, and "conservatives", consider the personal situation and take the responsibility to say: go to communion, but be discreet. So it has been  since the time of John Paul II.

Cardinal Kasper, who 20 years ago had his own idea in this regard, both in the pontificates of John Paul II., and Benedict XVI it was not accepted, saw with the rise Bergoglio the opportunity to re-submit this idea. Despite the fact that from Manila to Berlin, from New York to Africa, the vast majority of his colleague Cardinals reaffirmed the Church's teaching that - oh boy - is based on the word of Jesus. One of the few cases in which the statement unambiguously, clearly and definitely seems and is not even challenged by the professional  dismemberment pericopes in question ...

In short, the cause of Kasper & Co. does not seem to develop very well. But perhaps there is a way to help him. And to prevent the annoying votes against from being too loud.

The first point consists in the requirement that the contributions to the synod must be submitted in writing at an early stage. Which has already been put into action. Whoever wants to take the floor at the Synod, had to submit his text by the 8th of September.

Second: Carefully read all the posts. In the event that some should be particularly hot, then  another speaker shall be introduced immediately before the dangerous contribution by another speaker, the reply  which was prepared in advance to all or some points that are only raised in the previous presentation.

Third, if a post seems quite problematic, it will be censured,  and  not be granted, but that for lack of time, not all of the words will be included.  Of course, with the remark that he indeed accepted in writing and thus is part of the Synod files and he will of course take it into consideration in the drafting of the final document.

In fact, the Synod will not be of so much importance, but far more the summary that is worked in small groups and will bear as a "Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation" the signature of the Pope. It is very likely that there will not be a clear and definitive text, but a "fluctuating" interpretation, so that everyone will read from it what he wants.

Humble Note of a poor chronicler: But if one has such an elaborate and ingenious plan, why then would he talk openly in front of perfect strangers in a pompous dinner?

Introduction / Translation: Giuseppe Nardi
image: Asianews

Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com

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