Ecclesia Dei Communiqué to SSPX: Negotiations Are Still Open

Edit:  So, the new CDF was overstepping his mandate. It seems to us to be a slap in the face.

After the expulsion of Bishop Richard Williamson the Vatican Commission Ecclesia Dei sent a Communiqué.

(kreuz.net) Today the Papal Commission 'Ecclesia Dei' sent a  clarification on the negotiations of the Vatican with the Society of St. Pius X.

A Brief History

The clarification recalled the Dogmatic discussion between the two parties.  Then it is to have given discussions about the reconciliation.

The text recalled "other decisive steps" like the freeing of the Old Mass in 2007 and the lifting of the excommunications of the SocietyBishops in 2009.

A handing over of the most recent edition of the Dogmatic Preamble of 13 June 2012 and  of the offer of a canonical normalization signified the declaration as a as a point of culmination.

No Answer Received?

At the moment the Holy See is waiting for an official answer to these documents by the Society.

After thirty years of separation it is understandable that time is necessary, in order to sort out the significance of the most recent developments.

Benedict XVI. wants to strengthen the unity of the Church by the reconciliation of the Society.  Now clarity, patience, perseverance and faith is needed.

Is God's Church at Her Last Stand?

What the statement of 'Ecclesia Dei' ignores:  The Society has made clear in some statements, that the Dogmatic Preamble of June 13th would not be acceptable.

Their terms for further negotiations are on the table.

Furthermore the German District Superior of the Society, Father Franz Schmidberger, in the middle of September, explained that to his knowledge the Vatican had been answered.

The CDF of the Pope, Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, who personally hates the SSPX, has ended the dialog for his part in several interviews.

Link to original kreuz.net...

Church-tax: German Bishops Overstepped their Authority

Bonna locuta est - causa finita non est

Edit: Archbishop Gerhard Mueller just might have stepped too far this time. The media reports are making the German Bishops look terrible, and Canon Lawyer Father Gero Weishaupt, whose work appears here below via kath.net, has devised some canonical solutions for committed German Catholics who feel uncomfortable supporting the many Diocesan initiatives which go against Catholic teaching and practice.





Canon Lawyers:  The faithful may file grievances against the Decree of the German Bishops' Conference to the Papal Counsel for Legal Texts --- Document of the DBK is in contradiction to the Vatican's document from 2006.

Rome (kath.net/m)  The discouragement of German Catholics about the decree of the German Bishops' Conference has still as big and the debate over it continues -- against some Bishops' wishes.   There is confusion at the present with respect to the question, which Vatican dicastery had  really "blessed" the document. It is also unclear if Pope Benedict XVI had even signed it.

According to the Bishops Conference the document had been recognized by the Bishops' Congregation.  FAZ reports that had there been personal approval by the CDF  under the German Archbishop Gerhard Mueller and Pope Benedict, a suggestion, which in any case is not anywhere in the official documents of the DBK.  At least the general vaidation by the Pope will be questioned by Vatican observers in Rome, in any case called into question, where Benedict XVI has been a significant critic of the German system.

About the competence for such particular laws there is the legally pertinent apostolic constition "Pastor Bonus"  for information.   There it says in article 82:  "The Congregation deals with matters pertaining to the celebration of particular councils as well as the erection of conferences of bishops and the recognitio of their statutes. It receives the acts of these bodies and, in consultation with the dicasteries concerned, it examines the decrees which require the recognitio of the Apostolic See"

How does that apply to the faithful in Germany?  Canon lawyers, who view the conclusions of the DBK critically have given the advice to resist against it.  It is recommended to write a registered letter, sending it to the Nunciature in Germany to the Papal Counsel for the Interpretation of Legal Texts (00120 Citta Del Vaticano, Vatican City).

As an alternative it can be sent directly to (this Counsel), and indeed referring to the Apostolic Constitution "Pastor Bonus" where it reads in article 158, the following: 
 At the request of those interested, this Council determines whether particular laws and general decrees issued by legislators below the level of the supreme authority are in agreement or not with the universal laws of the Church.

As KATH.NET has learned the Papal Counsell for Legal Texts has a great interest in this that the questions will be clarified.  If the Counsel has already has already previously been appraised is unclear at the moment.  Already in its clarification of 2006, 'ACTUS FORMALIS DEFECTIONIS AB ECCLESIA CATHOLICA" it had clearly laid out the following:

"The  apostasy from the Catholic Church must, in order to be validly represented as an actus formalis defectinis ab Ecclesia, also has to be made concrete with respect to the foreseen cited canonical exceptions in: a) an inner conviction, to leave the Catholic Church; b) the following through and outer demonstration of this decision; c) the adoption of a decision against Church authority."

At least point a) is a clear contradiction of the declaration of the German Bishops' Conference.  The reason is simple:  In Germany the number of Catholics is growing, who are no longer prepared, in their consciences, to transfer Church-tax to Diocese, who clearlt agitate against the Catholic Church's teaching g and discipline with this money in either concealed or open projects or groups.  It is  patently clear that at least in this group, none of these Catholics wish to leave the Church, but quite the opposite.

Critics on the document of the Bishops are also coming from the worldly media.  This is what the "Sudddeutsche" in a commentary last Monday:  "The signal from outside is catastrophic however:  It doesn't apply to people who are leaving, it's all abut the church finances.  It is not applied in the first line n people who are going, who apostatize,  the quarrelsome, who have become estranged, for whom the Church stand -- rather it is accounted to secure the institution."

Even Catholic bloggers have shown themselves not afrighted  by the document from Bonn and showed some humor.  The following joke is circulating:  "Hey, did you know who the patron saint of the German Bishops' Conference is?  Naturally, St. Mathew, patron saint of tax collectors ;-)"

Das Vatikanschreiben (Write the Vatican) ACTUS FORMALIS DEFECTIONIS AB ECCLESIA CATHOLICA im Wortlaut 

Msgr Georg Gänswein Long-shot for Diocese of Regensburg

This weekend the careerist and teacher of error, Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller is leaving Regensburg. An unexpected guest took part in the festivities.

Prälat Georg Gänswein –
current secretary of Benedikt XVI.
© premiosciacca, Flickr, CC

 (kreuz.net, Regensburg) This Sunday the teacher of error and new defender of the Faith of Pope Benedict's grace, Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller officially departs as Bishop of Regensburg.

The event is the occasion of a feast and a closing Pontifical Mass in Regensburg Cathedral.

Today, this Saturday, Msgr Müller will open the former private house of Pope Benedict XVI in the 2700 population community of Pentling, which borders on north eastern Regensburg as a meeting place for the Neoconservative.

The Unexpected Guest

More interestingly Prelate Geoorg Gänswein, the private secretary of the Pope, was present for the festivities.

He has no close relatives in Regensburg.

For that reason there have been the presence of rumors whereby he appears as a likely candidate for the empty Diocesan post.

Roman observers consider this option to be improbable.

The Wish-candidate of the Enemies of the Church

The media bosses of the anti-cllerical 'Schwäbische Zeitung'  have already indicated their wish candidate.

Thus the schmier paper mentioned Cathedral Dean Lorenz Wolf (56).  He is the chief of the 'Catholic Office" in Munich.

The 'Catholic Office' is a point of contact between Bavarian politics and the Church.

Cathedral Dean Wolf had already been tapped as the likely Bishop of Augsburg after the Putsch against Bishop Walter Mixa.

A Mitre at Any Price

As other names, the newspaper named Munich Auxiliary Bishop Wolfgang Bishof (51).

The Director of the Schwabian pilgrimage site Maria Vesperbild, Prelate Wilhelm Imkamp may also have an appetite for the office of Bishop.

With the invitation of Berlin's homo-Cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki, he has shown that he is thoroughly prepared to walk over bodies to snatch up a mitre.

Link to kreuz.net...

Breaking: Expect More Speculation About No Deal with Rome

Edit: the hostility of Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Muller has been somewhat blunted the last time he spoke. Now that the smoke has cleared, Bishop Fellay continues to press on the issue of +Muller's insupportable assertion that Vatican II is "infallible" in all of its contents. Here is the article from Catholic Family News.

From Father Couture:
"A deal with modernist Rome?" 

“Bishop Fellay said recently, in many public conferences in Australia, that nothing new would happen for the SSPX under the present pope. And if we consider the appointment last June of the German Archbishop Müller at the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith – he considers Vatican II as infallible - the present situation is going to continue as it is for many more years.”

- From “An Appeal to our Korean Faithful” - Sept 8. 2012
(From Father Daniel Couture, SSPX – District Superior of Asia)

Taken from SSPX Asia webpage: http://www.sspxasia.com/

See PDF links below:

An Appeal to the Korean Faithful from Fr Couture

Letter from Bishop Tissier de Mallerais to the faithful of Korea Sept. 8, 2012
•  actual fax letter •  typed letter 

From Bishop Tissier de Mallerais about a recent interview with Fr. Chazal 
•  – Important clarification   actual fax letter •  typed letter 

Note: These links were posted today (Sept. 8) on the SSPX Asia website. What is of special interest is the publication of the letters wherein Bishop Tissier de Mallerais openly says he opposes under the present circumstances an accord with today's Vatican, that Father Coutre uses the term "Modernist Rome", and that he quotes Bishop Fellay saying nothing new [in the way of an accord] will happen for the SSPX under Benedict XVI. And please note, this is no rumor, but comes from the official website of the SSPX in Asia. - JV

Also from Father Couture's letter:
"1. Our Holy Faith 
"We profess as we have always done to maintain the Catholic Faith in line with the famous Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre, in 1974:

"'We hold firmly with all our heart and with all our mind to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic Faith and of the traditions necessary to the maintenance of this
faith, to the eternal Rome, mistress of wisdom and truth. We refuse on the other hand, and have always refused, to follow the Rome of Neo-Modernist and Neo-Protestant tendencies, which became clearly manifest during the Second Vatican Council, and after the Council, in all the reforms which issued from it. …'

"This is what we are, and, by the grace of God, what we will remain."




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Sister Lucia to Jesuit: "No, Father, Many, Many Are Lost"

This is the great error of the faith of the Conciliar age: "Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and few there are who go in thereat."  -kreuz.net

Dante und Virgil in der Hölle.
Gemälde des französischen Malers
 William-Adolphe Bouguereau (+1905).
© gemeinfrei

(kreuz.net)  Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller -- the faith gardener of Benedict XVI. -- is of the opinion that there are only few in hell.  Writes the site of the Society of St. Pius X,  'pius.de' early in August.

Are Most "Individuals" in Hell?

The site pointed to Msgr Müller's rambling book "Katholische Dogmatic: für Studium und Praxis der Theologie".  It reads:

"Who, as many and indeed the generality of people, offers a radical resistance against love till death, escapes from our knowledge not only accidentally but in principle as well. We should however hope and pray that generally, every man comes to goal of the outreached desire of God's salvation."

And: "Humanity definitely comes in Christ to God as its only goal, may perhaps also remain at odds with God."

Jesus Christ:  Many will not succeed

This assertion from the Gospel contradicts Msgr Müller, where Mathew in Chapter 7: 13 says:  

"Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.  How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!"

Or Luke, Chapter 12: 23-25:

"The life is more than the meat, and the body is more than the raiment.  Consider the ravens, for they sow not, neither do they reap, neither have they storehouse nor barn, and God feedeth them. How much are you more valuable than they? And which of you, by taking thought, can add to his stature one cubit?"

If the contentions of Msgr Müller true, then Christ would have had to say the following to 'pius.info':

"Narrow is the gate and strait the path that leadeth to destruction, but hardly anyone finds it".

The idea of Hell is salutary

On page 562 Msgr Müller maintains that Christian theology perceived "the teaching of the eternity of the torments of Hell as the crux of the Gospel".

Actually 'pius.info' shows, that that isn't true.

The salvific medications on Hell have led countless people to penance.

The greatest Grace of their lives

The website mentioned the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola (+1556).  There the consideration of Hell plays a very important role.

According to St. Ignatius it drives one on that "if I were to forget the eternal love of God because of my errors, the slightest fear of those punishments assist me in not falling into sin."

St. Theresia of Avila (+1582)  observed her vision of Hell as one of the greatest graces of her life.

In times of spiritual dryness the thoughts of Hell made more of an effective help against the selfishness in sin than the thoughts of the love of God.

In Fatima the Mother of God even showed little children Hell, in order to fill them with fervor to pray and do penance for the salvation of sinners.

Fearful Consequences

The site also mentioned the destructive influence, which the baseless assertions of Msgr Muller have on the salvation of souls.

Because:  "If the only people in Hell are a few human beasts like Hitler, Stalin or Jack the Ripper and that one may even hope for them, that they sing Hallelujah in the chorus with their victims, then the average man doesn't need to worry about his salvation."

The Church optimistic of salvation will be an instrument of the devil, that the sinner is deceived by this, and that he is actually in acute danger of falling into Hell.

 Such a Church makes it unnecessary to prove the present developments.

 But there's always the hope of salvation?

 The seer of Fatima, Sister Lucia de Jesus dos Santos († 2005) said in an altercation with the the salvifically optimistic Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi: "Father, there are many who are lost."

The Jesuit objected: "Sure, the world is a cesspool of vice and sin. But there's always the hope of salvation. "

The nun protested vigorously: "No, Father, many, many are lost."

Link to kreuz.net...

SSPX Ordains 2 Priests in Regensburg Diocese

(Zaitzkofen)  Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta has ordained two priests, Franz Amberger and the Czech Ludek Cekavy at the Priestly Seminary of the Heart of Jesus (Zaitzkofen).  Auxiliary Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta preached in French which was translated into German by the Rector of the Seminary, Father Frey.

The Bishop preached about the priesthood:  The priest has been chosen from among men to mediate the divine for men.  His mission is primarily of a supernatural nature.  The center of the priestly life is the Holy Mass.

He complained that the Bishop of Regensburg was named yesterday (30 July) [sic] to be the head of the Congregation of the Doctrine and the Faith, even though he denied Mary's perpetual virginity.  It is not acceptable that the leader of the Congregation holds a heresy.

Upon this [the Virgin Birth] it did -- says Msgr Muller -- "not  deviate from physiological particularities in the natural process of birth (such as something like the non opening of the birth canal, the non-injury of the hymen and not experiencing the pains of birth), rather it's in the healing and saving influence of the Grace of the Savior on human nature."

Bishop Muller ordained five priests on Saturday.

Trans: Tancred
Text: Dieteer Volkerts/Linus Schneider
Photo: Dieter Volkerts

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