Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò demands an admission that the attempt at a hermeneutic of continuity has failed.
(Rome) Is Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò heading for a schism? The well-known Vaticanist Sandro Magister sees this danger. Nothing would please the papal entourage and the hard-core progressives in the Church more than such a move.
Archbishop Viganò, Vatican diplomat, out of service since 2016, had most recently served as apostolic nuncio to the United States for five years. There is no more important post in the diplomatic corps. Pope Benedict XVI had sent him to Washington. However, he achieved international fame without ever taking the step into the big spotlight under Pope Francis, when he became his most famous and radical accuser. The top diplomat was accustomed to working in the background with the precise and deliberate language of diplomacy. But at the end of August 2018, his collar burst.
The first review in 2018
When the New York Times exposed the homosexual double life of Theodore McCarrick, then a cardinal, and allegations of sexual abuse of children and adolescents, including the homosexual corruption of his own seminarians, Pope Francis reacted quickly and stripped the cardinal of his purple dignity. Such a move was unprecedented in past centuries.
At the same time, the Church leader assured the public that he had known nothing about McCarrick's vices, otherwise he would have acted immediately and much earlier. This self-exculpation had outraged Msgr. Viganò. In a dossier, he accused Francis of untruth and revealed that he had already informed the then newly elected pope in detail in June 2013 about McCarrick's double life, who was therefore sanctioned by Pope Benedict XVI, although the full extent of the life of vice was not even known at the time. Francis, on the other hand, rehabilitated McCarrick and opened him access to papal power in a way that the U.S. cardinal had never had before. McCarrick was particularly influential in the appointment of bishops in the United States. In 2018, this was to lead to the additional accusation of having supported and strengthened a homophile network.
The Viganò dossier hit like a bombshell. The secular media was momentarily irritated. The sensation appealed to them too much. However, this was opposed by the prescribed self-discipline that protects Pope Francis – in contrast to his two predecessors. The papal entourage was furious. Under a mudslide, Archbishop Viganó seemed to be buried and swept away, but the Vatican diplomat showed remarkable steadfastness. To be on the safe side, however, he began to keep his whereabouts a secret. He also defended his move to the public against those non-progressive parts of the Church who fundamentally consider criticism of the Pope to be disreputable. The facts he mentioned were confirmed. In two additions, Msgr. Viganò added further details to the evidence, also giving exact dates and names. Most notably, he exposed part of the episcopal gay network in the U.S. and the Vatican.
He was silent. The great defendant, Pope Francis, was also silent. To date, he has not commented, or only marginally, on the serious accusations of his former top diplomat. The Holy See was attentive to the fact that the left-liberal secular media, which set the tone, kept up the protective dam around Francis. Once that was secured, they could easily ignore the matter themselves.
The Warning of a New World Order
But that's not all. Archbishop Viganò, a lawyer and diplomat accustomed to precise thinking, has repeatedly spoken out over the past 22 months and has also supported some initiatives critical of the Pope. Last January, he surprisingly took part in the Acies ordinata of traditional circles in Munich to protest against the schismatizing and heretical synodal path of the German Bishops' Conference and the Central Committee of German Catholics (ZdK). In May, for the first time, he initiated an action called Veritas liberabit vos (The truth will set you free) that sharply criticized the restrictive measures taken by numerous governments in connection with the coronavirus. Above all, it warned that there are forces that want to use the virus as a pretext to achieve a political agenda for the establishment of a new world order, bypassing the current constitutional order and democratic decision-making processes.
In this case, too, there was an astonished aha moment in the major world media and once again the Viganò initiative was quickly swept under the carpet. This time, too, the diplomat had apparently presented a text that was far too "dangerous" to be made available to the public unfiltered or at all. Rarely has it been more evident in recent years how massively and perfectly the leading media exercise the control of public opinion through filters and barriers. At the same time, the appeal Veritas liberabit vos was also signed by several cardinals, which in itself is already a sensation. In the Corona crisis, no document as important as this criticism has been published beyond medical statements. No wonder it is hushed up.
In the papal environment and among convinced Bergoglians, the rumor has been spread since the late summer of 2018 that Archbishop Viganò is no longer in unity with the Pope, that he has become a schismatic. This was not just a conviction that some people really cherished. There was another reason: nothing would be more convenient. The Viganò case would be settled in one fell swoop. No progressive, nor even Rome, would have to justify himself to a schismatic. The matter could be filed without Pope Francis, for example, having to comment on the accusations put on paper two years ago. On August 26, 2018, Archbishop Viganò had demanded nothing less than the resignation of Francis in his dossier.
The statements on Benedict XVI.
In fact, Msgr. Viganò, endowed with his authority and rank, formulates a position in the Church that latently embraces considerably more circles in the clergy and among the faithful than some think, but which has hardly been articulated so openly and pointedly in recent times. 20 days ago, the archbishop also objected to a central point of the pontificate of Benedict XVI.
The German Pope, who had just spent a few days with his brother in Regensburg and had left the Vatican for the first time since his retirement to the monastery in the Vatican Gardens, attempted a course correction of the greatest magnitude during his term of office. He wanted to correct the reading of the Second Vatican Council, which had dominated everything for 50 years. He articulated this goal in 2005, at his first Christmas reception for the Roman Curia, in a great speech. It is about the liturgy, theology and the understanding of the Church itself. Ultimately, it is about the entire life of the Church beyond personal piety.
The post-conciliar period was dominated by the hermeneutic of rupture. Benedict XVI tried to counter it with a hermeneutic of continuity. By reading the conciliar documents in the light of the tradition of the Church's two-thousand-year history, the ruptures and their mentality should be overcome. It was not only the guardians of the hermeneutic of rupture and the ecclesiastical '68ers who resisted this by boycotting and sabotaging Benedict's pontificate wherever possible. On the other hand, doubts were also expressed by those close to tradition as to whether all the statements of the Council, even the most controversial ones, could actually be reconciled with tradition. This site also postulated a hermeneutic of rupture in the spirit of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. During the pontificate of Benedict XVI, this criticism rarely went beyond the articulation of concerns, as the fundamental agreement with the German head of the Church remained dominant. Under Francis, that consensus quickly faded. The traditional shyness of criticism of the Pope, which is characteristic of faithful Church circles and is understood as an award, developed some cracks the more unpredictable the new Church leader from Argentina showed himself and the more irritating certain statements and actions appeared.
Archbishop Viganò responded on June 9 to a statement by Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider published on LifeSiteNews, speaking of a "monstrosity" created by modernist circles through the Second Vatican Council. He also made some observations concerning the pontificate of Benedict XVI, who "betrayed" the Church with his hermeneutic of continuity. The German pope had even strengthened the modernists' thesis that the Second Vatican Council was immune to heresies. It is enough, this is the difference from the hermeneutics of the rupture, to read the Council "in perfect continuity with the true doctrine of all times," Sandro Magister concluded. Archbishop Viganò counters that there are statements in conciliar documents that are so ambiguous that they cannot be reconciled with Tradition. Therefore, the hermeneutics of continuity does not go far enough.
"Drop Dignitatis humanae in toto"
Archbishop Viganò's statements have become more accentuated over the past few months. More and more clearly, he called a spade a spade, where until now they had been hinted at at best. Most recently, this happened in a public exchange of blows with Phil Lawler, author of Lost Shepherd, a book critical of Francis' pontificate.
The criticism of controversial conciliar texts is "too timid," said Msgr. Viganò. Not everything can be corrected by correcting a few words. This is especially true of the document Dignitatis humanae on religious freedom. Magister summarizes the archbishop's demands as follows, quoting him:
"To do what needs to be done once and for all is to 'drop it in toto and forget it.'"
Consequently, according to Msgr. Viganò, those who are guilty of false theology should also be chased out of office, unless they show insight and convert.
The matter is very serious, the Apostolic Nuncio said calmly, because since the Council the nature of the Church has been distorted by striving for a new "world unity religion", whose inventor and first theoretician is "Freemasonry". The political arm of this new world religion is a "world government out of control" as sought by powerful secular forces. It is against these forces and their goals that the appeal Veritas liberabit vos and the letter of Msgr. Viganò to US President Donald Trump, whom he described as a fighter of light in the fight against the forces of darkness, are directed. Trump responded enthusiastically with a tweet that was circulated worldwide on social networks.
The latest move by the pugnacious archbishop is the accusation against Benedict XVI of having failed with his too timid attempts to make the necessary corrections to the Second Vatican Council. His thesis of a hermeneutic of continuity had turned out to be insufficiently profound, but also impracticable in some respects. This, too, is an admission that is necessary if the necessary course is to be set.
The question remains whether Magister's sensors reported a false alarm or whether his advance warning system is accurate and reacts particularly finely by trying to recognize Archbishop Viganò's path to schism in this latest criticism, which also hits Benedict XVI. The fact remains that nothing better could have happened to Santa Marta.
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: Voice of the Family/MiL (Screenshot)
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.Com
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And off into schism he will go. Get in line Viggy-baby.
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Burke, Strickland, Schneider and companions are and have been de facto schismatics for ages. In fact, most of the entire US Catholic Church has been in a state of schism from the Church since the late 19th century when Leo XIII issued Rerum Novarum.
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ReplyDeleteGaybot croaks again!
ReplyDeleteOpus JuDei (Tim Busch's & the Koch bro's money) will do anything to keep anyone from joining SSPX, i.e. returning to the practice of the Roman Catholic faith.
ReplyDeleteHow come Vigano never criticizes JP2?
"Second, Viganò ends his initial testimony with the admonition: “Let us heed the most powerful message St. John Paul II left us as an inheritance: Do not be afraid! Do not be afraid!”
Are we talking about the same John Paul II who defended to the death the notorious serial pederast Cardinal Hans Groër, O.S.B. Archbishop of Vienna, who claimed an estimated 2,000 victims (no typo) during his long clerical career? Are we talking about the same John Paul II who put more clerical homosexual prelates into the hierarchical ranks than any other post-conciliar pontiff, second perhaps, only to the sodomite Pope Paul VI? And lest we forget, are we talking about the same John Paul II, during whose pontificate of more than 26 years, the most vile and salacious “sex initiation” programs – programs which attack body, mind, and soul – were visited upon countless innocent parochial school children?"
...However, the real question that I will address in this article is: In what way is Opus Dei behind Vigano’s actions? For instance, given the aforementioned accolade to John Paul II, could he be acting in deference to Opus Dei’s desire to continue the myth of “John Paul the Great?” Or is there another Opus Dei purpose behind this?
https://akacatholic.com/opus-deis-role-in-the-vigano-affair/
you continually delete my comments about Fake Catholics Michael Flynn (lifelong Democrat, awarder of transgenders when at DIA, supporter of sodomite marriage and abortion organizing a protestant white army) and Steve Bannon. But Vigano was also part of Stop the Steal and the Jericho March organized by the sodomite Ali Akbar and spread by the sodomite Jim Hoft/Gateway Pundit and Opus Dei Tucker Carlson too. You have to wonder if the Koch bros and the Mercers along with Tim Busch are funding this circus also (Opus Dei sites always referring to the FBI targeting traditional catholics, but they don't show their hidden hand about how they get the names and faces of these people to the FBI; how they infiltrate their churches w/these rallies hosted by 'right wing' generals and bishops:
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/michael-flynn-is-recruiting-an-army-of-god-in-growing-christian-nationalist-movement
https://www.qoa.life/blogs/news/speech-to-jericho-march/
Vigano recently spoke during the so-called “Reawaken America Tour” hosted by Mike Flynn. He did last year too. 1/
https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1713949912478683434
Vigano is also in with Opus Dei on Russia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/trump-allies-michael-flynn-roger-stone-got-help-from-william-barr.html
https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/is-archbishop-vigano-looking-east
I'd sure like to know the truth about Vigano and Strickland's canonical status. But just like w/Michael Voris the last place to look for anyone to protect the flock is the Catholic Church (except in the case of Frank Pavone).
How can Tucker Carlson be Opus Dei when he is an Episcopalian or some other type of high-church Protestant? And who in Opus Dei is giving names to the FBI? If E. Michael Jones is right, it's Notre Dame grads.
ReplyDeleteAnd is Bp Vigano still supposed to be in hiding? If the ties between the USG and the Vat are as tight as is noised about, they know when the bishop sneezes.
ReplyDeleteWhere the bishop sneezes? The ZOG US government claims they couldn't find Osama bin Laden for twelve years with all the intelligence resources of the global empire and the Mossad.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Flynn introducing Vigano,(@0:0:04) he is "in exile over in Sicily."
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But his "exsurge domine" association has offices in Rome:
Business name: Association "Exsurge Domine"
Tax code 95099120123
Registered office
Via Sabotino, 2 - 00195 ROME
(could be an opus dei post office box in a hotel)
https://exsurgedomine.it/en/contatti/
Via Sabotino, 200195 Roma RM, Italy
Most popular places at this address
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He seems to be pretty greedy and for all his wanting to clean up vatican finances, his family has sued him for shady dealings.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/milan-court-rules-against-archbishop-vigan-inheritance-lawsuit
Vigano is presented to us Americans by opus dei sites as being in hiding (just like Flynn and Bannon are presented as 'faithful' Catholics on our side). We are simply trusting these sites to be telling the truth, which I do not believe they do.
ReplyDeleteApparently Vigano has been ordaining priests and bishops and apparently one has sodomite scandal attached to him. Dr. Kwasnieski's son is in one of the orders so not like they don't know about it--they just present one side to the people they are trying to influence. They say Vigano is a whistle blower and against sodomy and now he's a traditional catholic (except he thinks JP2 is a traditional catholic just like all those who adhere to St. Escriva; and instead of joining SSPX he advises don't join SSPX but join his new group). They say Strickland is America's bishop. And everyone just assumes that they know and are telling the truth.
10.6.22 Yesterday I posted a link to a 2010 article alleging gay grooming & harassment by Scott (now Dom Alcuin) Reid when he was a seminarian in Melbourne in the 1980s. That article noted that several bishops had urged Reid to seek laicization, 1/x
https://bishoppatbuckley.blog/2022/10/06/priest-illicitly-ordained-by-rogue-archbishop-vigano-has-his-own-diy-monastery-with-connections-to-disgraced-silverstream/
Damian Thompson
@holysmoke
5.21.22 A priest friend suggests that Archbishop Vigano ordained Dom Alcuin Reid. It really is extraordinary that we don’t know.
https://twitter.com/holysmoke/status/1528007500968108035
You don't have to be Catholic to be opus dei:
ReplyDeleteNon-Catholic Christians and people of other religions cannot belong to the Prelature, but they can be its Cooperators, if they wish. Cooperators pray for Opus Dei or help it by means of their work and donations towards the educational and social projects undertaken by the faithful of the Prelature throughout the world. At present, there are Cooperators of Opus Dei who are Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran, Jewish, Moslem, and Buddhist, as well as people who have no religion.
https://opusdei.org/en/faq/opus-dei/#
WFB was married to an Anglican (which is what Tucker is):
His memorial service was at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, on Fifth Avenue. Hers was at the Temple of Dendur, in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. His was a Requiem Mass, with 18 priests, banks of Easter lilies along the altar rail, and Bach’s Second Brandenburg Concerto for a postlude. Hers was a Celebration of the Life, with a brief benediction, a gigantic bouquet of fuchsia rhododendrons behind the lectern, and Rodgers and Hart’s “Isn’t It Romantic?” on the soundtrack of the opening photomontage. His was open to the public, and a capacity crowd of around 2,200 mourners—a sprinkling of socialites and journalists engulfed by a legion of right-wing eggheads—squeezed into the cathedral’s pews. Hers was by invitation only, and socialites vastly outnumbered eggheads among the approximately 400 select, each of whom was perched on a gilded ballroom chair with a hot-pink cushion.
Henry Kissinger spoke at both.
...Bill Buckley was too shaken up by his wife’s passing to deliver his eulogy, so it was printed in the program. He quoted a condolence letter from an acquaintance: “I am a confirmed nonbeliever, but for once I would like to be mistaken, and hope that, for you, this is not good-bye, but hasta luego.” [see you later] Buckley commented, “No alternative thought would make continuing in life, for me, tolerable.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/01/buckleys200901
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tucker-carlson-met-jared-kushner-roger-stone-pardon-1234602875/
Whole modern "conservative" movement traces back to Buckley and Bozell who both have CIA ties. Roger Stone, the trysexual, got his start w/YAF and Buckley. He's been involved in countless dirty tricks for sixty years. He writes books w/E Howard Hunt's (CIA) son pinning JFK assassination on Johnson instead of Mossad/CIA. Biggest thing about Buckley is the Roy Cohn and other mostly Jewish sodomite connections. Roy Cohn is the same connection Trump has.
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/94251
https://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/roger-stone-pretty-reckless-is-going-straight-to-hell-part-one/
The big tip about Tucker is how he is plumped in the opus dei blogosphere, but also how he adheres to their party line for instance in Russia Ukraine war.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tucker-carlson-met-jared-kushner-roger-stone-pardon-1234602875/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/russia-ukraine-woke-military-tucker-carlson/671569/
This is an opus dei site:
What Should Be Tucker Carlson’s Next Move? How ‘Bout Becoming Catholic?
Much of the requisite ideological groundwork for Carlson’s conversion to Catholicism is not only laid but deeply ingrained in him.
https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/what-should-be-tucker-carlsons-next-move-how-bout-becoming-catholic
P.S. Didn't you think it the tiniest bit odd that all the congressional footage of 6 Jan 2021 was given to a television reporter to review by McCarthy? Who wanted to know what was on these tapes that Tucker could pass the info to?
https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-capitol-riot-mccarthy-tucker-carlson-50a41c27108279a4486823a5db284dc1
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/17/mike-johnson-january-6-video-footage
Is Tucker a “cooperato in the Work?
ReplyDeleteVigano has been in the Diplomatic Corp since 1968. Why is he bringing this up now? I guess we're all too dumb to know up from down. I have a question:
ReplyDeleteWhy did the Sun Dance at Fatima followed by the sale of the Papal States the creation of a corrupt Bank a heretical Council and a heretical Mass? Oh.
"Why did the Sun Dance at Fatima followed by the sale of the Papal States the creation of a corrupt Bank a heretical Council and a heretical Mass? Oh.
ReplyDeleteDon't keep the reader in suspense, Ivan. Spill the beans, don't hold back, reveal all.
The ZOG American deep state which created the VII church and the new mass seems to have at least one of its bots trashing AB Vigano. Happy Hanukkah.
ReplyDelete"The ZOG American deep state which created the VII church and the new mass seems to have at least one of its bots trashing AB Vigano. Happy Hanukkah."
ReplyDeleteGet help! Immediately.
Vigano is a zionist.
ReplyDelete"He has been tied to Viganò, particularly a public letter the archbishop published in 2018 claiming Vatican officials helped cover up accusations that disgraced American prelate Cardinal Theodore McCarrick had sexually abused seminarians. Viganò argued Francis knew about the allegations years before they were made public, although a 2020 Vatican investigation on the matter was seen to absolve Francis of blame. The New York Times reported at the time that Busch consulted with Viganò on the letter before its publication in an EWTN-owned outlet, a charge Busch has repeatedly denied (the Times stands by its reporting)."
https://churchleaders.com/news/458251-pope-francis-chides-his-american-critics-rns.html/2
"If they did [contribute to Trump], they would compromise their values and they would never be able to hold any politician accountable," Busch said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/charles-koch-explains-donors-why-he-won-t-support-trump-n620621
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-morality-of-charles-koch-1506983981
"Catholic entrepreneurship teaches people to co-create with God as He intended. It balances resources naturally and distributes them in a way that upholds man’s human dignity and his tendency toward a final end. Charles Koch, long-time collaborator with Busch and CEO and chairman of Koch Industries, believes that politics is demonstrated in the culture, but that the culture is quickly disintegrating.
Because of this, Catholic businessmen need to lead by example in their daily lives, concluded Busch.
“If we are going to save free market capitalism, then we need to keep the government out of social issues,” Busch said. [ABORTION and SODOMY MUST BE LEGAL; AND U.S. must be destroyed to get free immigrant slaves to work in Busch hotels and Koch industries - but don't see vigano telling busch & Koch how bad illegal immigration is. Pro-life and keep abortion legal ain't just the democrats, it's LifeSiteNews who keep the money flowing from legal abortion and Christendom College - but don't see vigano exposing that either.]
https://www.christendom.edu/2016/09/28/successful-entrepreneur-tim-busch-encourages-students-to-build-businesses-and-live-the-faith/
I will note, in passing, the irony that groups like the American Life League and the Lepanto Institute get people all riled up when the bishops' anti-poverty program, the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, makes a grant to organizations that are affiliated with groups that promote issues like same-sex marriage or abortion rights, but they have been strangely silent on CUA taking money from Mr. Koch, who announced to the world, or at least to Barbara Walters (the effect is the same), that he is both pro-same-sex marriage and pro-choice on abortion. But irony is rarely a thing to be bothered about.
https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/tim-busch-koch-brothers-capitalism-and-catholicism
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/us/koch-brothers-antonin-scalia-george-mason-law-school.html
The Zogs are all over opus dei. And they run vigano.
How do you know Tucker is an Opus cooperator?
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