Edit: he never abjured his heresy.
[America ] Hans Küng (b. 1928), who died on April 6 at the age of 93, was the youngest and third most influential Catholic theologian of the second half of the 20th century, after Karl Rahner, S.J., (1904-84) and Edward Schillebeeckx, O.P., (1914-2009); but he was first in flair and media savvy.
Küng rose to public awareness in the events leading up to and during the Second Vatican Council (1962-65). He flourished as a Catholic theologian for more than a decade after the council by writing a number of landmark books. After being disowned by the papacy as a Catholic spokesperson in the early days of St. John Paul II’s pontificate, he flourished again as an organic intellectual of the world by mediating among religions and stimulating a global ethic.
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2021/04/06/hans-kung-death-obituary-vatican-ii-240394
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"an organic intellectual"
Exactly what is that?
That is an intellectual that make a use of an organ which not necessarily needs to be called a brain.
Ivan
Ivan should know.
One word for Kung..........Heretic. He'd have been a good Lutheran.
Damian M. Malliapalli
(Nevertheless, R.I.P.)
JPII took on the unholy three: Kung, Rahner, Schillebeeckx for the nearly 26 years of his papacy. He did this with a bullet in his gut which debilitated him and crippled his ability to lead. It was Papa Ratzinger who actually ran the Vatican during that time while JPII travelled the world.---Wojtyla was shot in 1981. He died in 2005. B16 "sat in the hot seat" 2005-2013. Then in came the Argentinian who rehabbed all those put in their place by the Polish primate.
It was John XXIII who 'rhabbed' Rahner, Schillebeecks, Congar, von Baltasar, Kung, Haring, and many others, including Joseph Ratzinger after Pius XII banned them following WWII.
Kung was not a heretic. He simply wasn't Reg Garrigou-Lagrange, Alredo Ottaviani or Ratzinger post 1968.
He was a good man and will be missed.
Why are photos showing up now of him in a light blue cassock?
Was he ICKSP?
^^That was his Prom dress, snookums.
3:34 AM
He will be missed like a Boil on the backside.
Kung was only as powerful and relevant as the media and its readers would allow him to be.
Yes, he was ICKSP
10:23am
He was ordained a Priest in 1954.
The ICKSP was canonically erected in 1990.
How did he become one of their Priests?
He will be remembered for dragging the church, kicking and screaming, out of the Dark Ages and into the 20th Century. Rest In Peace , great man.
https://youtu.be/O3rZUOJn5W8
"He was ordained a Priest in 1954.
The ICKSP was canonically erected in 1990.
How did he become one of their Priests?"
He wasn't one of their priests. THat is not the habit/cassock of the ICKSP, (Or ICRSP in Latin). THat is the official garb of a D.D, JCD, STL., etc. in Germany......or of a Canon of a Cathedral chapter(an honorary posting for a priest). Saying that Hans Kung was a member of the ICKSP which promotes the Tridentine LAtin Mass and all the Catholic tradiitons that he hated is like saying that Adolph Hitler was a good CAtholic even though he started WWII and approved the Holocaust.
Damian M. Malliapalli
(Also the ICKSP mentions nothing about him on their website....ever(
@Dan, livestreaming pornography in Santa Marta!
He was an honorary canon of le Institut du Christ Roi Souverain Prêtre
5:39 PM
Is this how B.S. is spelled in French?
I didn’t think he’d ever die.
Fake news?
I want to see the wounds.
He was about as constructive as a hand grenade.
Fortunately, he didn’t have coattails.
What will happen with the body?
Fed to wild dogs like he said happened to Him after the first Easter
I checked the ICKSP website both the USA and International site, and there is no mention of Hans Kung. I do not believe he had any affiliation to them. He hated everything they stood for, and was one of the principle architects to destroy the CAtholic FAith and traditions.
Kung was no ICKSP canon.........an honorary canon of a Cathedral ( each chapter in Europe has its own distinct "habit") mayb he was. But An ICKSP canon......? No way.
Damian M. Malliapalli
Kung loved Catholicism too much for him to have anything to do with cross dressing schismatics.
Why on earth would Hans Kung ever want to have anything to do with the Latin Mass? That about the most ridiculous thing I've heard of in awhile.
~ M. Ray
I never cared for him
Aren't cross dressers and other deviants an integral part of your culture club, Tom?
@XOXOXOXOX they are in the Traditional Anglican Communion. A heretic like Thomas Merton preferred the TLM and traditional office to the New.(He did this for aesthetic reasons, which might have flowed into theological problems. Merton tended not to care about theological objections.)
It appears he will be buried in Germany: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/225385555/hans-k%C3%BCng
However, graves in Germany may only be rented:
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2480242/stadtfriedhof-t%C3%BCbingen
"However, graves in Germany may only be rented". True and the reason is that Germans believe in the resurrection of the body so grave rental makes sense both theologically and economically.
I don't think Germans believe in an afterlife
Well, at least Ratzinger, Mueller, Schneider, Brandsmueller, von Balthasar claimed they did.
Exceptions that prove the rule.
Then it was a flawed premise in the first place, Furthermore, anything that 'breaks the rule' demonstrates that there is no rule in the first place.
More influential on society, Hans Kung or Wang Chung...it's a toss up.
^^ Wrong on both counts. Chung King is more influential on Society.
Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option.
To be Magisterial they need to interpret Vatican Council II with the rational option.
The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and choose the irrational, common interpretation of the Council, the only one known to Fr.Hans Kung sj.
Fake premise
Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.
Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Rational Premise
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.
Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.
Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades
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