Edit: I’ll bet Voris didn’t see this coming, but just as we said earlier, it was coming. The far-left NHR even sites the Communist SPLC as a legitimate news source. The intended target in this case, might just be as bad as Voris says he is. It’s hard to pick who to root for here.
Update 11/21/2023: the NHReporter doesn’t seem to exist and when I clicked on it, I got a bogus virus message. I removed the link and replaced the article with another publication, the New Hampshire Union Leader.
[NHReporter] Judicial Vicar Rev. Georges de Laire filed a federal lawsuit against the far-right news outlet Church Militant this week, claiming the outlet published “recklessly false” statements about de Laire after a notorious radical sect was disciplined by the New Hampshire diocese.
Gary Michael Voris, who goes by Michael Voris in his internet videos, runs Church Militant, a website that reports on Catholic news and politics. Voris' outlet published videos and articles calling de Laire “emotionally unstable,” stating de Laire is incompetent, and implying he’s corrupt, according to the lawsuit filed in the United States District Court in Concord on Friday.
The lawsuit states that Voris started his campaign against de Laire in January of 2019 after the diocese barred the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary from calling themselves Catholic and put the group under discipline.
AMDG
28 comments:
Do you know the difference between sites vs. cites?
The ignorance on this site is astounding
Why do they’re need to be typo Nazis?
As obnoxious as Voris is bishop de Laire is more obnoxious. The news account reprinted above is outrageously biased and uses deliberately inflammatory language in "reporting" this story terms like "notoriously radical sect" and "far right news outlet" the NHReporter is rubbish.
Agree.
Budgie, is that you???
I think it is
Good for Christine, the English scholar.
De Laire isn't a bishop. He's the Judicial Vicar for the Diocese of Manchester. Peter Libasci wears the miter.
Whatever disagreements there are, is an internal squabble within the family of Christ. Whether Voris is a "black sheep" of the family, is a side matter. The antiChrists are attacking. Family bickering aside.
Peter Lisbasci does wear the miter but he obviously wears it tilted to the left. I happen to agree with Constantine about Family bickering.
I haven't figured out Libasci. He's bi-ritual (Latin and Ruthenian-Greek) and is friendly to the FSSP. It's said that he invited them into his diocese. I've heard a lot of parishioners at the FSSP Nashua parish sings his praises.
The followers of Fr. Feeney are hardly "notorious." How many Catholics had even heard of this group?
Recent news about the Slaves: https://www.unionleader.com/news/religion/vatican-rejects-slaves-of-the-immaculate-heart-of-mary-appeal/article_cf5ffceb-47de-5f9f-8098-aa6e3ffa2e26.html
It seems like a fruity thing to do to go after the fruit, Gary, in court for things that are likely true.
@P. O'Brien, what do you expect from a publication that believes the SPLC is a credible source to consult about the Slaves?
@Constantine, it's obviously not a "family squabble" but a conflict between the servants of the Synagoguge of Satan and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart, who have kept a fire burning for Catholic teaching rejected outright, distorted or hidden by most of the Church's clergy.
Good Riddance. How can a network which claims to be orthodox and traditional be against the SSPX and the Latin Mass, and to go after them so vigorously? I how this brings Church Militant, and Voris, and Christine Niles down and out.
Damian M. Malliapalli
The lawsuit is baseless, and of course, it will only help Church Militant.
I thought slavery was abolished so what's it about these catholic gulags in New Hampshire?
Catholic gulags are proliferating under Commie Bergoglio and his army of globohomo Covid worshipping bishops.
ANY COMMENTS JULIE ?
FEBRUARY 22, 2021
How can a Catholic in mortal sin remain a pope ? How can Pope Francis continue to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents with the objective error and continue to be the pope ? How can he impose this false interpretation of the Council, with a fake premise, upon all the cardinals and bishops ?
I accept Pope Francis as the pope but he interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise instead of without it.So he changes the understanding of the Creeds and Catechisms and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is first class heresy.How can a Catholic in mortal sin remain a pope ?
Like the popes from Pius XII he irrationally interprets the the baptism of desire(BOD)invincible ignorance)I.I) as not invisible but visible non Catholics who are personally known and are saved outside the Church. This is irrational. If there are any such people they would only be known to God. So the BOD and I.I cannot be postulated, by us humans, as being known examples of salvation outside the Church,making exclusive salvation in the Church obsolete. This is is the error of both the present two popes.
How can Pope Francis continue to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents with the objective error and continue to be the pope ? How can he impose this false interpretation of the Council, with a fake premise, upon all the cardinals and bishops ?
This error is common in the Church and he does not correct it.
Even the Lefebvrists and sedevacantists make the same mistake as the liberals.So no one corrects the pope, since they are all part of the problem.
John Salza and Robert Siscoe author of True and False Pope will not comment on this subject. They interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise and wrote their books.
Sedevacantist Louie Verrecchio will also not comment since he does not want to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and so have to affirm Feeneyite EENS. He is concerned about the persecution which will follow for his family.
Ann Barnhardt who does not accept Pope Francis as the pope agrees that there are no known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance in the present times and that they 'exist only on paper'. Yet she too is unable to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and affirm Feeneyite EENS. This is first class heresy like that of the two popes.So she cannot correct them.
The Lefebvrists too do not want to admit that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre made an objective mistake when he accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and its irrationality which was repeated at Vatican Council II.This remained unknown to him. If he interpreted the Council without the false premise there would be no rupture with Tradition and no need to form the SSPX.
The sedevacantist Most Holy Family Monastery, USA also interprets
Vatican Council II with the false premise and not without it.Then they wrongly blame the Council. They make the same mistake as the present two popes they cannot appeal to Pope Francis to correct the error..- Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 21, 2021
Pope Francis is forcing all cardinals and bishops to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to remain in good standing with the Church. Those who do not use the fake premise to create an artificial rupture with Tradition would be considered to be outside the Church
Pope Francis is forcing all cardinals and bishops to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to remain in good standing with the Church. Those who do not use the fake premise to create an artificial rupture with Tradition would be considered to be outside the Church.This is a theological epidemic in the Catholic Church. It's a doctrinal mess. The whole Church is affected like at the time of the Arian heresy.-Lionel Andrades
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FEBRUARY 21, 2021
Pope Francis'interpretation of Vatican Council II is heretical.It is irrational, non Catholic and not part of the Deposit of the Faith. He must choose the rational alternative which has a continuity with Tradition.He could see LG 8, LG 16 etc as referring to hypothetical cases only in 2021
Pope Francis'interpretation of Vatican Council II is heretical.It is irrational, non Catholic and not part of the Deposit of the Faith. He must choose the rational alternative which has a continuity with Tradition.He could see LG 8, LG 16 etc as referring to hypothetical cases only in 2021.But if they are hypothetical cases then how can they contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Jesuit Fr. Leonard Feeney ?.
So they are not practical exceptions to EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors.
Similarly the baptism of desire(LG 14) and invincible ignorance(LG 16) are not objective cases and so they are not practical exceptions to the traditional strict interpretation of EENS.
For the pope to consider what is invisible as being visible is false. It is a false premise. An inference based upon a false premise will result in a non traditional interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Choosing an objective error which violates the Principle of Non Contradiction is not Magisterial.-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/pope-francisinterpretation-of-vatican.html
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FEBRUARY 21, 2021
When Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II without the fake premise the conservative-liberal division ends. He cannot quote Vatican Council II to support his liberalism. The present liberalism is based upon the false interpretation of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) which was accepted at Vatican Council II and has become the New Theology
When Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II without the fake premise the conservative-liberal division ends. He cannot quote Vatican Council II to support his liberalism.
The present liberalism is based upon the false interpretation of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) which was accepted at Vatican Council II and has become the New Theology.
The New Theology exists because of the false premise. Without the false premise there is no New Theology. - Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/when-pope-francis-interprets-vatican.html
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Sorry Tancred,
The above posts were meant for Julie's CCC blog.
Lionel
Pope Francis also needs to inform the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Bishop and Judicial Vicar in the Diocese of Manchester, that Vatican Council II can be interpreted win harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The Council interpreted without the false premise supports EENS according to the St.Benedict Center.-Lionel
FEBRUARY 20, 2021
The Congregation for Catholic Education, Vatican needs to inform the Dean of Theology at the Pontifical Universities in Rome - San Anselm, Angelicum, John Lateran, Anthoniam etc- to not publish any new article on Vatican Council II, especially with reference to Ecclesiology, in which the Council is interpreted with the fake premise
The Council interpreted with the fake premise creates division in the Catholic Church between liberals and conservatives ( traditionalists). Also those who attend Mass in Latin are looked down upon since it is wrongly beleived that Vatican Council II ( with the false premise) has made Tradition obsolete on faith and morals.The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is rejected in public. -Lionel Andrades
Thanks for the off topic comments. They’re really great!
Thanks for the off topic comments. They’re really great!
Thanks for the off topic comments. They’re really great!
Fr.Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar in the Diocese of Manchester, USA, is not telling us how can speculative, theoretical and hypothetical cases of being saved in invincible ignorance, which would only be known to God, be personal and objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in 2021 ?
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FEBRUARY 23, 2021
The St. Benedict Center is repeatedly being called a sect and Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider do not intervene
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-st-benedict-center-is-repeatedly.html
-Lionel
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