Edit: the following is a video by a former Society of Saint Pius X priest who has really lost his way but presents himself credibly here. He's the one falsely accused of running off to Mexico to open up a tattoo parlour after leaving the SSPX. Clearly, we don't endorse this man's total agenda, but what is valuable about his contribution is that his testimony challenges the way Church Militant will distort and lie about a person to promote an agenda, just like the "real" news does.
This individual is even more difficult to listen to than Skojec, but he makes some fairly damning statements about Michael Voris' integrity in general and the way Church Militant does business, and if you're a faithful Catholic, you should start to look at CMTV a little more critically and even abandon it altogether as a source for any news.
Voris lies about his seminary formation. He didn't have his crisis in the seminary as Voris claims. Voris lies about details in this man's life to sensationalize in part, and just pure laziness in the other.
We'd also like to invite this wayward priest to return to the SSPX and take his punishment by going into monastic seclusion and pray for his own salvation and the success of his order in saving souls.
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Ironic. Even the people who should be taking sides with Voris (Gays, Anti-SSPX people, and Anti-SSPX Gay people) feel the need to point out how much of a liar he is.
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I thinks Voris is still a fag.
ReplyDeleteNone of these people are in any way a good advertisement for Jesus Christ or his Gospel.
ReplyDeleteWe should pray for their conversion to Catholicism. That, at least, would be a start.
I could only watch 21 minutes of this. That is all that my stomach could take.
ReplyDeleteI am always surprised that people who post things on social media get offended when others notice a post. Is this not the point of posting things?
You surrender your privacy to a fallen world and then complain when the fallen world violates or misrepresents what you are saying.
This poor man is, in all charity, a mess. There is a way out for him if he is willing to take it. The way to start is to GET OFF social media. Return to your Superiors in the Society and speak with them in humility and with repentance. He is not the first man in history that has had a situation like this. They may recommend stringent measures. But you will have saved your soul.
Regarding Voris: He is a wildly narcissistic (supposedly celibate) homosexual who will one day fall apart, in one way or another. Homosexuals are intrinsically disordered in their thinking. They are "wired" to self-destruct. Until they are ready to privately, in Confession with a traditional Priest, repent of their lifestyle they will not progress forward in a normal way.
I don’t think he’s objecting to having things posted about him. He’s objecting to being lied about, and it also seems that he has a kind of fondness for the Society as well. I hope he reconsiders his path.
DeleteIf Voris was attracted to this “man” and he indicated he wasn’t interested that could explain Voris’ slander. It’s the kinda thing homos do. They cant stand rejection.
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ReplyDeleteThere is no such thing as a homosexual person. It's a man that should be referred as having a changeable disposition. Voris, as a matter of conscience, and perhaps fear of damnation (perhaps excess scruptulocity) feels uncomfortable committing himself and endorsing the SSPX and tradition. I don't like his attacks. My view, is that he should be treated as a leper, with a need to cure his leprosy of scrupulosity and confusion. He is a sick man. Scarred by his sins, and what others did to him in the past. Perhaps no longer following a honosexual lifestyle, but scars remain. From what I read, he needs healing. His heart needs affirmation for Tradition.
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ReplyDeleteIt is my understanding that Voris is very affirming of "Tradition".
He just does not like the SSPX.
This guy is big old preening fruitcake, just like Voris is.
ReplyDeleteThis is why homosexuals should not be admitted to any seminary.
ReplyDeleteGood Grief! God is Truth! Why can't you all just get along. Take criticism if it is deserved. Move on! May all be one. Stop fighting the Devil's fight.
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ReplyDeleteThe argumentum ad hominem against Voris is unwarranted. These attacks amount to nothing more than calumny.
ReplyDeleteThere are lots of attacks against Gary. Which ones are you talking about, Mr. Logic expert?
DeleteVoris is the kid who the Nuns always had clap the erasers.
ReplyDeleteNothing about Jesus but all about self.
ReplyDelete@allandan500 interesting how you suggest calumny against Voris yet ignore Voris' calumny against the SSPX. Calumny is calumny is calumny....
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DeleteVoris’ attacks aren’t calumny, they’re libel and slander.
Calumny is revealing a person’s failing without good reason in public. I’m not sure how talking about how Voris fails at journalistic professionalism and accuracy, or how his aberrosexuality pays a role in that is calumny, but then, a lot of Voris’ s fans need to be brought up to speed on these things.
Too much whining!
ReplyDeleteCalumny is any form of ruse or fraud employed to deceive another, particularly in judicial proceedings. In its more commonly accepted signification it means the unjust damaging of the good name of another by imputing to him a crime or fault of which he is not guilty. The sin thus committed is in a general sense mortal, just as is detraction. It is hardly necessary, however, to observe that as in other breaches of the law the sin may be venial, either because of the trivial character of the subject-matter involved or because of insufficient deliberation in the making of the accusation. Objectively, a calumny is a mortal sin when it is calculated to do serious harm to the person so traduced. Just as in the instance of wrongful damage to person or estate, so the calumniator is bound to adequate reparation for the injury perpetrated by the blackening of another's good name. He is obliged (1) to retract his false statements, and that even though his own reputation may necessarily as a consequence suffer. (2) He must also make good whatever other losses have been sustained by the innocent party as a result of his libellous utterances, provided these same have been in some measure (in confuso) foreseen by him. In canon law the phrase juramentum calumniae is employed to indicate the oath taken by the parties to a litigation, by which they averred that the action was brought and the defence offered in good faith.
ReplyDeleteMy initial comment was about the unjust attacks against Voris. Nothing more was intended. As to the video that Voris released, I don't think it should have been released. I think Voris fell into the common trap of believing that under the name of "journalism" there is a moral justification to to commit detraction.
ReplyDeleteHe didn’t just detract. He lied and he libeled. Not only is it perilous to his immortal soul but it is legally and professionally perilous as well.
DeleteI guess he assumes that the OP is a pushover and won’t take him to court.
He didn’t just detract. He lied and he libeled. Not only is it perilous to his immortal soul but it is legally and professionally perilous as well.
DeleteI guess he assumes that the OP is a pushover and won’t take him to court.