Theologian and pastor Don Alfredo Morselli speaks with the usual openness about idolatry in the Vatican and encourages an exorcism to purify the Vatican. Il Fatto Quotidiano interviewed him.
Q: Share the appeal of Catholics who complain idolatrous acts during the Amazon Synod. Do you consider them as such?
Don Morselli: I do not know what to call cultic acts of worshiping realities that are not God.
FQ: Some deny it, eg. Bishop Felipe Arizmendi Esquivel, emeritus bishop of San Cristobal de las Casas in Mexico.
Don Morselli: I know: He said that "they are not goddesses; there has been no idolatrous worship. They are symbols of Amazonian realities and experiences that have not only cultural but also religious motives, but not worship, because this is due only to God." It reminds me of a certain priest who was invited to dinner on Friday. When he was served meat so as not to embarrass his hosts, he blessed the meal with the words, "I baptise you cod." That's exactly what happened now. They baptized the idols "cod".
QQ: Why is it idolatry?
Don Morselli: St. Thomas Aquinas defines as worship a cult, in which one uses one's body to worship God, and since we are of two intellectual and sensitive natures, we must offer God a double worship: the spiritual, the spiritual, the spiritual the whole devotion of the soul; and the physical, which consists in the external humiliation of the body (S. Th. II-IIae q. 84 a., 2 co.). In the Vatican Gardens, they have their faces on the ground and the rump in the air: this was clearly an "external humiliation of the body" (and the humiliation of the spectators' eyes), that was an act of worship. In St. Peter's Basilica, she was carried around in procession with songs and prayers ...
Q: Can you not, like Bishop Esquivel, see it as a "symbol of experience" and not as an idol?
Don Morselli: To be an idolater one does not have to consider an idol that one worships to be an idol. It is enough to worship something that is not God. Jesus commanded the devil: "You will worship the Lord your God and serve him alone" (Mt 4:10, Lk 4: 8). The Pachamama, call her "goddess," call her "experience," call her "worth," but it is not "He alone." You do not throw yourself in front of it!
Q: Don Bux said that St. Peter's Basilica should be exorcised. What do you think about it?
Don Morselli: How could I contradict such an outstanding scholar? Moreover, the Scriptures say, "The gods of the nations are demons" (Ps 95: 5). And: "They sacrificed to spirits who are not deities, and gods whom they did not know before, newcomers who had come recently, and whose fathers were not afraid" (Deut 32:17). In any case, when we look at the various scandals, it does not just take an exorcism: it would be wise to bless the rainwater when it rains in Rome. This is faster and it will exorcise the whole Vatican and not only St. Peter's. I speak - so it is clear - of the human misery of some churchmen and not of the Holy Church. And I believe that Church history is always, as John Paul II said, "Church history is a history of holiness".
Q: Could not the Pachamama rituals be seen as an act of inculturation of the faith?
Don Morselli: Cardinal Biffi said culture comes from cultivating and cultivating is a thing that is good and fitting to do. It is not all civilization that produces a people's culture, but only when a people cultivates itself according to the truth. Only God "has done well" (Mk 7:37), but man, through original sin and consent to the devilish temptations, can produce sinful acts that can be reflected in the general practices of a people. And that is not civilization: idolatry and pantheism can not be considered as such.
Q: Do you expect to be accused once more of being an enemy of the Pope?
Don Morselli: I have inherited the spirit of Dubia from Cardinal Caffarra: you can ask the pope questions, but you do not set him down and do not fight him. Just as in politics, when one no longer had any arguments, those "fascists" who were not communists were called "enemies of the pope". But I am a friend of the Pope, of all Popes, Peter to Francis, unlike those who in the past had opposed John Paul II and Benedict XVI. had rebelled and now raise Francis on the shield. One can not cast out the Pope with the Pope and read the ordinary teaching in a spirit of break. However, the doctrine of faith is to be assumed in its unquestioning totality.
Translation: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: MiL
Image: MiL
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
AMDG
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But Rendering obedience to the false pope Bergoglio is a sin of idolatry as explained by Saint Vincent Ferrer Because the Sin of Bergoglio was of idolatry apostasy and heresy. That is to say that no faithful Catholic can still consider Bergoglio as a pope, besides he was already a heretic before being invalidated elected.
Saint Vincent Ferrer, OP: “By rendering obedience to one who is not Pope and paying him papal honors, the first precept of the first table (Commandment) is broken in which it is ordered: Do not worship a foreign god, or an idol, or a statue, or similarity some of the heaven.” He explains that it is very dangerous for the christian soul to join to a false pope; because the false pope is like “a foreign god in this world, an idol, a statue, a fictitious image of Christ. It is evident, then, that it is very dangerous for any Christian soul to break, even by ignorance, the two divine precepts indicated”
Not related, but at this link is a comment by "Reddishbird" stated three times saying that an "Eastern Orthodox Catholic" Patriarch has excommunicated Francis.
https://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2019/11/american-spectator-editor-neumayr.html -Dirk
I can’t find anything recent.
Anonymous - Dirk
See here for declaration on excommunication of psuedo Pope Francis by Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate, conducted on 17 February 2018.
The same BCP declared Abp Carlo Maria Viganò Pope on 16 October 2019.
Paul Jackson.
Pants go BOOM!
Why would the opus devils want to exorcise the Vatican—wouldn’t they be exorcising themselves?
"Darkness is good," says Bannon, who amid the suits surrounding him at Trump Tower, looks like a graduate student in his T-shirt, open button-down and tatty blue blazer — albeit a 62-year-old graduate student. "Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they" — I believe by "they" he means liberals and the media, already promoting calls for his ouster [but why not Catholics too]— "get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747
10.30.19 Sodomite Voris:Things are a little amiss in Catholic media land. So here is a Catholic man objectively committing adultery, who reports non-stop on Vatican affairs — and we're supposed to think his reporting can be trusted. His wife can't trust him. Why should we?
https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-reports-are
11.19.19 “Things are as hardball as they can get. Stephen K. Bannon is back… they called it Breitbart Embassy because (after Bannon killed Breitbart (cui bono?)) they saw themselves as leaders of a foreign power” [Would that be the ‘embassy’ w/the bathroom w/the glass door?]
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/steve-bannon-broadcasting-impeachment-battle-plans
https://dailycaller.com/2014/03/12/breitbart-news-cpac-party-had-orgy-vibe/
Bannon has three wives (and divorces) and is an accused wife abuser, sexual harasser and only fathers ‘normal’ children, but he can be trusted to not only ‘report’ on the impeachment but to ‘found a school’ (how happy the cia/fbi/bethell jfk murderers are that manafort, Assange and stone are all in jail while the Podesta pedophiles, the Epstein 911 Cheney murderers, and the Pelosi and Biden thieves and abortionists romp free):
4.1.19 Cardinal Raymond Burke and Steve Bannon partner on founding school in Italy
https://www.facebook.com/ChurchMilitantcom/posts/cardinal-raymond-burke-is-partnering-with-
steve-bannon-to-establish-a-school-at-/2288408294549637/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon
He married her on April 14, 1995, three days before the twins were born. “Bannon made it clear that he would not marry me just because I was pregnant. I was scheduled for an amniocentesis and was told by the respondent that if the babies were normal we would get married,”
https://nypost.com/2016/08/25/trump-campaign-ceo-accused-in-divorce-papers-of-attacking-wife/
I won’t bother to tell you what I wore, for it makes me sad to be reminded: one of most expensive, seductive outfits now tattered and in shreds…When I saw him recently on television (the only time I’ve seen him since that blind date), he declared that his mission was “to deconstruct the administrative state,” and I couldn’t help but be reminded of his words that night:
I’m going to destroy you! You need it. Admit it.
“Destroy,” according to Urban Dictionary, means to have very hard sex, or go to town on a woman usually in derogatory fashion with the bloke deriving most of the sexual pleasure and often wishing to inflict some element of short term pain, hoping the woman will bleed or walk ‘bow-legged’ for several days afterwards…. It can also mean that the sex is so good for the woman that her independence is destroyed, her submission complete.
https://medium.com/the-coffeelicious/that-time-steve-bannon-destroyed-me-961e21ccd399
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-butler-said-it-epsteins-paris-apartment-employee-claims-steve-bannon-visited-in-2018/
Why doesn't Voris sue E.M.Jones when he would sue a priest and his diocese*? Why isn't Opus Devil under Vatican investigation when (lay) spiritual advisors publish 'confessions'to anyone who buys their books (that contain no footnotes)?
Voris had one of his episodic flashbacks to a scene of sexual molestation in childhood. He began to scream and cry and impersonate the event as he remembered it. Voris had been sodomized as an infant by his father. Voris’s great fear was that the story of his father’s molestation of him would come out when his story came out. Voris’s spiritual advisor is convinced that the story is true. His mother walked in on it while it was happening and held it against both of them for the rest of her life, hence Voris’s sense of his mother as abuser, and Holy Mother Church as the surrogate who needed to be punished for her abuse. He later had his father flown out to Cheyenne, Wyoming andforced him to confess what he had done. Instead of coming to grips with the wound and the mother and father who abused him, Voris retreated into his narcissistic fantasy of himself as the victim soul Church reformer to deal with the trauma that had been inflicted on him by his family and his childhood peers. To do that he needed to remain forever young. Voris began losing his hair at the age of 23, but at some point thereafter,he “had some kind of work done” which involved transplants of artificial hair, leaving him with the hair of a 25-year-old, but the face of an old man. Anyone who knew the truth became associated with that wound. Telling him to retire was like condemning him to death. Hence, the flashback to the primal scene of molestation. He knew that if he were going to go off camera, he would lose the apostolate, and if he lost the apostolate,his narcissistic fantasy of himself as the super-macho savior of the Catholic Church would die. So we’re talking about a life and death situation (p 52-53)
https://kupdf.net/download/the-man-behind-the-curtain-michael-voris-and-the-homosexual-vortex-e-michael-jones_596a1276dc0d608e56a88e77_pdf
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-church-militant-to-sue-fr.-larry-richards-and-his-diocese
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/russ-voris-r.i.p
Bannon's chief adversary right now is Pope Francis. He's doing all he can to turn people against the pope. And he's getting some help from fellow Catholics who don't particularly like the current pope and who happen to be journalists.
One of them is Thomas Williams, a former Legionary of Christ who writes for Breitbart. He left the scandal-plagued religious order some time ago to marry the daughter of former U.S. ambassador to the Holy See, Mary Ann Glendon, with whom he secretly had a child while still a priest. Williams is a great friend and ally of Bannon's.
https://international.la-croix.com/news/pope-francis-or-steve-bannon-catholics-must-choose/10383
2.20.17 Huffington Post Yiannopoulos: “I’m grateful for Father Michael [a Catholic priest Milo claims to have had sex with as a teenager]. I wouldn’t give nearly such good head if it wasn’t for him. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody who is 13 years old and sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty, who do not have functioning sex organs yet, who have not gone through puberty. In the gay world, some of the most important enriching, and incredibly life-affirming, important, shaping relationships are between younger boys and older men. They can be hugely positive experiences very often for those young boys.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/milo-yiannopoulos-on-pedophilia-and-this-arbitrary_b_58ab52a5e4b029c1d1f88d77
10.11.17 Church Militant: Milo Yiannopoulis (Breitbart Fired Pedophile Supporter) talks about his Catholic faith, masculinity, Fr. James Martin
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/the-catholic-magazine-interview-with-milo-they-refuse-to-print
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/steve-bannon-disowns-milo-yiannopoulos (over white nationalism--not pedophilia--and right when michael voris bethell's cia hag takes him up)
Yiannopoulos said it was Bannon who brought him into the company, but said that he had not talked to him in a while. “Steve Bannon is one of the foremost and brilliant political operatives of his generation,” Yiannopoulos said.
https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/milo-yiannopoulos-resigns-breitbart-pedophilia-1201993063/
Caveat lector!
That "Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate" is sedevacantist. They are not recognized by any other Eastern Catholic prelates including the true Byzantine Catholic bishops who are in full communion with the Holy See.
https://youtu.be/QOAeFYX5eds
If Pope Francis is Bannon’s 'chief adversary,' he’ll be pope forever—like Obama (Breitbart’s promised scoop never ‘materialized’ after opus devil deep state s/h/it Bannon took over).
“Breitbart’s last scoop: Obama participated in a panel discussion!” [Alinsky crap that the Chicago Podesta pedophile S/H/ITs gave the opus devils]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/breitbarts-last-scoop-obama-participated-in-a-panel-discussion/2012/03/05/gIQAQq04sR_blog.html
Tillerson “was very adamant that they allow gays to serve in the Boy Scouts,” said Democratic U.S. Rep. Marc Veasey, who follows Boy Scout developments and whose Fort Worth district ends about a half-mile from Boy Scout headquarters
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article120877793.html
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/22/boy-scouts-require-condoms-upcoming-world-jamboree/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tillerson-jokes-at-boy-scouts-meeting-that-god-sent-him-home-from-state-post-to-save-his-life/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rex-tillerson-threatened-to-quit-in-july-after-trumps-boy-scout-speech-report
Tell the boys they’re girls,give them condoms and turn camp outs into pedophile woodstock, but don’t tell the truth about the country, politics or Merry Christmas.
https://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/
Tillerson got the job after winning the support of Steve Bannon, the iconoclastic former Breitbart News chief, and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law. From the start, he was widely panned for his close ties to the Russian oil industry
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-rex-tillerson-turned-the-state-department-into-a-ghost-ship-201597/
Let’s not forget Pierre Delecto who bragged he’d been working for sodomites in the boy scouts since 1994 —when Bannon supported him (and pedophile opus devil ryan who sacrificed the babies to pachamama pelosi to impeach Trump) Romney lost, when Bannon attacked him, Romney won.
https://www.glaad.org/blog/mitt-romney-stands-1994-statement-supporting-end-boy-scouts-ban-gay-americans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/21/mitt-romney-pierre-delecto-twitter-slate/
https://people.com/politics/mitt-romney-grandson-pierre-delecto-halloween/
Steve Bannon came to Alabama to stump for Roy Moore, but he spent more time attacking national Republicans — including Mitt Romney and his family (It’s called whipping up support for Romney (same way the opus devils just tried to whip up support for Biden w/a fake communion story)-- meanwhile bannon was in alabama to defeat moore w/drudge riding shotgun (anti Christ perverts ensuring the real pedophiles stay in D.C.); same reason bannon took over trump’s campaign to take the president out (sure they had their polls in August 2016 to know who was going to win)).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/bannon-s-enemies-list-mcconnell-flake-romney-even-his-kids-n826896
Exclusive!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/07/05/paul-ryan-we-win-we-repeal/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/03/30/rep-ryan-backs-romneys-republican-presidential-bid/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/08/11/source-romney-raises-from-ryan/
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/18/tucker-carlson-roger-stone-jeffrey-epstein/
Why would the opus devils want to exorcise the Vatican—wouldn’t they be exorcising themselves?
"Darkness is good," says Bannon, who amid the suits surrounding him at Trump Tower, looks like a graduate student in his T-shirt, open button-down and tatty blue blazer — albeit a 62-year-old graduate student. "Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they" — I believe by "they" he means liberals and the media, already promoting calls for his ouster [but why not Catholics too]— "get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747
10.30.19 Sodomite Voris:Things are a little amiss in Catholic media land. So here is a Catholic man objectively committing adultery, who reports non-stop on Vatican affairs — and we're supposed to think his reporting can be trusted. His wife can't trust him. Why should we?
https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-reports-are
11.19.19 “Things are as hardball as they can get. Stephen K. Bannon is back… they called it Breitbart Embassy because (after Bannon killed Breitbart (cui bono?)) they saw themselves as leaders of a foreign power” [Would that be the ‘embassy’ w/the bathroom w/the glass door?]
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/steve-bannon-broadcasting-impeachment-battle-plans
https://dailycaller.com/2014/03/12/breitbart-news-cpac-party-had-orgy-vibe/
Bannon has three wives (and divorces) and is an accused wife abuser, sexual harasser and only fathers ‘normal’ children, but he can be trusted to not only ‘report’ on the impeachment but to ‘found a school’ (how happy the cia/fbi/bethell jfk murderers are that manafort, Assange and stone are all in jail while the Podesta pedophiles, the Epstein 911 Cheney murderers, and the Pelosi and Biden thieves and abortionists romp free):
4.1.19 Cardinal Raymond Burke and Steve Bannon partner on founding school in Italy
https://www.facebook.com/ChurchMilitantcom/posts/cardinal-raymond-burke-is-partnering-with-steve-bannon-to-establish-a-school-at-/2288408294549637/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon
He married her on April 14, 1995, three days before the twins were born. “Bannon made it clear that he would not marry me just because I was pregnant. I was scheduled for an amniocentesis and was told by the respondent that if the babies were normal we would get married,”
https://nypost.com/2016/08/25/trump-campaign-ceo-accused-in-divorce-papers-of-attacking-wife/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/trump-campaign-ceo-was-accused-of-sexual-harassment-in-90s-l
I won’t bother to tell you what I wore, for it makes me sad to be reminded: one of most expensive, seductive outfits now tattered and in shreds…When I saw him recently on television (the only time I’ve seen him since that blind date), he declared that his mission was “to deconstruct the administrative state,” and I couldn’t help but be reminded of his words that night: I’m going to destroy you! You need it. Admit it.“Destroy,” according to Urban Dictionary, means
https://medium.com/the-coffeelicious/that-time-steve-bannon-destroyed-me-961e21ccd399
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-butler-said-it-epsteins-paris-apartment-employee-claims-steve-bannon-visited-in-2018/
PF urges "respect" for prostitutes. Whaddya wanna bet he patronized some while visiting Bangkok?
https://news.yahoo.com/pope-meets-thai-buddhist-patriarch-visit-promoting-religious-063119345.html -Dirk
They are sex workers -- surely opus devils can sanctify themselves w/their work whatever they do as long as they do their best and have a supernatural purpose (sign over the check to josemaria).
@Anonymous: and your fairy tale on prostitutes is of what gender? As for Michael Voris, that is also a f----n heavy fairy tale.
I posted the posts on Nov 20th and 21st. -Dirk. I don't really think he patronized prostitutes - he is a modern Pope, after all, but a man who urges respect for prostitutes would seem to have renounced the faith.
"Truly, I say to you, the tax collectors and prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you....." Jesus Christ (Mt 21:31-32)
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