We've always questioned Grein’s story. We weren’t the only ones, either. Grein came out later to insist that Bernadin had abused him too. It was all getting a little much. The first thought which came to mind was that Grein wanted his story to throw doubt on those told by other victims, and that at least, is what McCarrick, is trying to do.
Edit: why couldn’t they have shot a picture of him outside of cardinal’s robes. He’s not a Cardinal any more.
AMDG
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As strange as this may seem, I spoke with a woman who is a parishoner at the Cathedral of the Plains, where this guy was banished.
Before he was defrocked he was saying Mass in the Cathedral with a church full of people. He was openly mixing with the parishoners. ("He was SO nice.")
His protestations of never leaving the enclosure is a total lie.
Another vampire I know of who was supposed to be under restriction was himself traveling to Belgium.
Francis is openly condemning his critics. Funny how the original "Americanists" were far better people than Frankie.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/04/pope-catholics-critics-honor-americans-attack/40071065/
Lots of corroborating evidence Mr. Grein is telling the truth.
Listen to him. I find him credible. Compare him to Mr. McCarrick.
Every other word out of that McCarrick’s mouth in the Slate interview is a blatant lie. Including his ad hominem slanders of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.
Sources in New Jersey from Don Bosco High School confirm McCarrick showed up at Mr. Grein’s high school graduation, sitting as an honored guest on the dais. A priest on the faculty at the time remembers thinking how odd it was for McCarrick claiming to be a ‘friend’ of the family.
The road leads back to St Gallen, Switzerland. Of all places—The very place where the road to Benedict’s resignation . . . begins.
'Sources in New Jersey' would count as hearsay in a court of law or didn't you know that? So much for what you find 'credible.'
The court of law even of the Homosexual Network defrocked him. Too much of an embarrassment for them.
But not for you as you defend McCarrick anyway.
@pw you’re the “you” above.
I spoke to the priest-faculty member of Don Bosco, Bergen County, N. J. who sat next to that devil of the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church aka McCarrick at the boy’s graduation. Grein was then 18, by that point having been raped by McCarrick for seven years. (Grein as an infant having been the first child McCarrick ever baptized.)
Better read up on millstones if your tastes run to McCarrick. As he ought as well.
Bill Donohue of the Catholic League would call this fabricated bogus 'repressed memory.' Are you going to cancel your subscription?
Grein’s testimony is contradictory, including his suggestion that his grandfather invented the brazier.
There are also points where he seems to be suppressing laughter and points where he breaks out in laughter as he tells the credulous Beevis and Butthead another whopper.
Interesting take on Grein. As stated, he could very well be delusional and be part of the "disinformation" efforts. The devil is known to be very clever.----I always liked and respected Bill Donohue. On one trip to New York, I went to his offices in the high rise near Penn Station. I interacted with a receptionist about a donation.---Sadly, his entire effort with his "high rise" salary is to defend the Church at all costs. In his own mind, the Church is still pre Vatican II with rosaries said before Mass. He will not admit and look at the gay infiltration of the priesthood.----I do not know if this is disinformation or that he has his "head in the sand". Whatever the reason, the crisis is too blatant not to comment on. His "Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights" is now one of yesteryear which is just a megaphone seduction for the Church as it evolves and devolves into the gutter.
Donahue defended Roger “Phoney” Mahoney. As per one Culture Wars article written by a CDL member in New England, he’s only symbolically concerned about gays in the priesthood and the effects of that, while at least one of his staff has an effeminate speech affect and circular filed one of his concerns.
Bill is just a go-to guy when the media wants a “Catholic” take when a public figure takes a negative stance on the Church. He rewards himself handsomely for that.
So, Tancred, you think that McCarrick is really a good guy who hasn't done anything wrong, and that he has been falsely accused?
~M. Ray
Millstones, @pw.
I never did subscribe to Donohue. Why do you ask—Are you canceling yours to the Eponymous Flower?
You've most definitely cashed in your membership of the Catholic Church. Enjoy your next time warp experience.
You’ve most definitely assumed an outmoded juridical posture out of step with today’s church.
Nobody goes to Hell, peanut!
Agreed JBQ. Donahue does not mind in the slightest defending the fag bishops and the fem bishops. He does not care in the least for the raped child by these predators from Hell unleashed upon Holy Mother Church and Christ’s priesthood.
And he couldn’t care less about McCarrick waltzing around a small Kansas town masquerading as a ‘brother’—if anything he misses McCarrick ‘s gelt. He’s certainly not going to do or say anything against the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church—like Gregory, Cupich, Tobin and most especially Francis—or otherwise to endanger the money base.
It’s First Saturday. Let’s keep the Fatima promise. Immaculate Heart.
Fatima is a theme park featuring little kids spooked by bloody tales of what the Communists were up to. Even Benedict arrived at that conclusion.
Santa Marta is a mafia hangout.
I thought the communists were monsters who were trying to take over the world. Let's see... Lenin: there is no morality for us, there is only expediency. Stalin: murdered 30 million of his own and barely defeated Germany while suffering 29 million military casualties. Krushchev: came closer to starting a nuclear war than any other leader since 1945; Brezhnev: a dinosaur who was one of the worst political leaders of modern times. This doesn't count the Maoists, the Norks, the Cubans, Mugabe, and on and on and on.
PW, remind me again why you are on this blog? -Dirk
Why don't you ask the same question, Dirk?
Take over the world, Dirk? Even heard of the Monroe Doctrine and how that came to have global implications for the way US foreign policy developed? Take a look at what happened to massive social and political destabilization after the idiot kid from Crawford TX dismantled Iraq's professional army and police force. How many millions have perished following that monumental act of stupidity. And Americans don't need ISIS maniacs gunning down people in the streets, Americans do it for them: + fifty thousand annually.
Read a book.
I remmember when Gaybriells just wanted to be left alone, they said, then tranny story hour happenened, and they run the Church. Wow?
Alright, Mr. Watson, maybe I was unkind, so maybe I should apologize, but you and Tancred clash all the time on this blog. Are you really trying as hard as possible to be charitable? Maybe it is just because of the extremely low level of public discourse in our age that this blog's comments' section is like this, but it's really unpleasant. If I was unkind, I certainly wasn't very unkind. My questions are valid questions. As for your remarks, who said I liked Bush II, the Second Iraq war, policing the world, the Monroe Doctrine, or firearms? I don't want to preach, but I am going to say it is hard to like you. You did seem to be making light of communism, which... would be condemned by the vast majority of commenters on this blog, plus maybe... virtually all of the Popes, had the word "communism" been around before Marx.
Perhaps on a more productive line of thought, Dirk, I wonder what you have to say about the endemic confusion about socialism and communism in the public discourse in the USA. I live in a country that, like scores of others throughout the world, that has had since its foundation, a social security system that includes guaranteed low or not fee medical benefits, hospitalization, pharmacy; that includes generous unemployment safety nets etc; that includes a national covenant that not only allows but demands the disarmament of private individuals. This all means that the citizens of countries like mine are prepared to pay higher taxes to make this possible. When social systems like this are mentioned in many quarters in the US the focus changes from social democracy to communism.
The most famous documented case of a 'communist' or zero sum society is the post Pentecost Christian community in Jerusalem but the most enduring of them all is the social system known as religious life which is God-centered communism.
All that being said, I bet the reactionaries, not responders, will be dropping down from the rafters even at the mention of a subject like this. My ongoing beef with Tancred is that he quite often engages in a fruitful conversation, even a long thread, but the moment he feels he is getting too close to being persuaded or reassessing his position, he becomes very reactive, retreats to the default of 'homo' ad hominem and shuts the door.
If people would appreciate sufficiently the ancient Christian adage that we are all about 'faith seeking understanding' and that this searching and questioning is never exhausted then maybe there would be a more productive culture of tolerance.
Mr. Watson,
You mock Our Lady of Fatima in one breath then respectfully request dialogue in the next.
Wormtongue? Frankly, that's my sense after a week's encounter with you. Maybe I'm mistaken, but as of now you are apparently an apostate modernist, far from a faithful son of the Church.
If not, please tell us what articles of the Athanasian Creed--nay the Nicean-- with which you agree.
In Corde Christi,
BB
Get help, Captain Sede.
Try making actual arguments.
Reactionaries? Try,
“People who have treat arguments”.
Gaybrielle, you live in an establishment whose generous dole is feeding a festering population of Muslims who are taking over the country. These minorities are so precious to the establishment, however, that your allegedly benevolent dictatorship will imprison anyone who criticizes them in any way, including pointing out that they are well-represented when it comes to prostituting underage English girls to an equally villainous and swarthy clientele.
You obviously don't get out much these days, do you Tancred?
Your ignorance and rusted on social profiling attitude are of Olympian proportions. You should try your hand on Jeopardy in the red neck section.
If you can’t argue your point, you can always insult people and position yourself as a prince of the intellectual realm.
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