The current epidemic of fornication, adultery and the acceptance of homosexuality as a moral good among the faithful and of the clergy ... and the current scourge of homosexual predation among the priests and bishops of the Catholic Church are the foreseeable and inevitable fruit of the conciliar popes' decision to respect, honor and approve the aspirations of modern man so-called; and to declare, pursue and defend the exaltation of man in the temples of God.Edit: Saint Louis Park, in which the parish rests, is a major concentration of Jews. Can’t gelp but wonder if they weren’t entirely happy with this kind of triumphalist Catholicism within their enclave.
MINNEAPOLIS (ChurchMilitant.com) - A priest of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter has been excommunicated, and his parish permanently closed, months after he criticized certain actions of various popes both during and after the Second Vatican Council.
On April 1, Bp. Steven J. Lopes announced he had issued a decree of excommunication against Fr. Vaughn Treco, pastor of St. Bede the Venerable in suburban Minneapolis, citing "rejection of the magisterial authority of an Ecumenical Council and a series of popes.
The charge stems from a homily Fr. Treco delivered on Nov. 25, 2018, the Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe.
Website defending Father Treco.
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I wish my parish priest was this good.
ReplyDeleteFollow the money. Does Lopes benefit in any way from the tribe? Does he move in their circles or is this a case of crypsis? As the Hebrews were a major influence at Vatican 2, I wouldn’t be surprised that they applied pressure to Lopes.
ReplyDeleteBishop (and I use the term lightly) Lopes needs to be investigated himself. He’s got a strange background, I hear from U. S. F. Ignatius Institute sources, an arrogant look and a crooked chin.
DeleteHow does a man so young become such a pompous ass so quickly?
What's in this for an aberrosexual deviant sodomite like Voris?
ReplyDeleteFr. Treco is 100% correct. Vatican II opened the door to the devil in the world and he was invited to participate in the life of the Church. Look around you and see his work. Vatican II was a catastrophe for the Church and must be abrogated in its entirety. Pope Francis is the personification of Vatican II doing the work of the devil as we see day by day.
ReplyDeletePlease send money to Fr. Treco and stop giving the any diocese fund.
Must be a tough call for an entire Ecumenical Council and its magisterium applied by its 2800 bishops being completely out of sync with you. What's your secret M. Dowd?
ReplyDeletePW--
ReplyDeleteThe secret was murky language and Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI who were on the side of the Modernists.
Has nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with ultra liberal twin cities.
ReplyDelete@fatty who do you think calls the shots on religious issues of the Catholic Church in the public sphere since the post-war period?
Delete@Peter W: I guess that you don't believe in "turning one's life around". I would presume that since you run in Michael's previous circles, it must tick you off that he now says that it is wrong.
ReplyDeleteJBG Gaybrielle isn’t here for reasonable discussion, he’s here to derail the discussion.
DeleteOf course, it's the Jews' fault, and not that of a morally bankrupt church hierarchy.
ReplyDeleteDon't like the Jews calling everyone an anti Semite? Don't act like an anti Semite.
Jews are people, some good, some bad. Like everyone else. And if they don't accept Christ, that's their problem, not ours.
The simplest answer is most likely the one that is true. In this case, morally corrupt bishops.
DeleteMorally corrupt bishops who’re under Jewish power.
There’s no such thing as anti-semitism.
Jews wield incredible power over the Catholic Church, especially since the hierarchy capitulated to them following AIPACs control and influence over the Vatican Council. The Church has since lost every public battle it’s ever fought and will continue to do so until it recognizes that the Jew is the Church’s enemy and stands up to Jewish power.
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ReplyDeleteIt’s kind of a no-brainer really. We are supposed to forgive them and to love them, especially when they do us wrong and slander us.
DeleteWe are not allowed to kill or harm the Jew. (Unless he commits a capital crime.)
Then it’s the state’s obligation to mete our punishments.
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ReplyDeletePriest hit with Leftist excommunication : Bishop Lopes' interpretation of Vatican Council II is deceptive, unethical and immoral
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-hit-with-leftist-excommunication.html
An orthodox and faithful priest gets axed for questing the modernism in Vatican II. Meanwhile Brasilian pagan shamans are in good standing and considered brother priests. I think it has more to do with bad philosophy and theology, than anything else.
ReplyDeletePW--Your ad hominem slander of Mr. Voris is astonishing in its arrogance and dishonesty.
ReplyDeleteYou well know that he has rejected his past as sinful and moved on, yet drudge it up now. Christian charity and forgiveness not for you, apparently. Well your cheap point is denied.
And to what point is your attack on him? What does it have to do with Fr. Tancred, canned and unjustly excommunicated for naming the very same Homosexual Network Strangling the Church that Mr. Voris has done more than just about anyone to expose.
Perhaps your sympathies are with that Network.
I’m not a priest.
DeleteI think Gaybrielle aka “PW”’s views are the kinds of malicious slurs common to that vicious set of clerical miscreants one typically sees at the diocese. If someone has a past who is not part of their ideological clique, they mercilessly and often publicly malign them to destroy.
“PW” often finds fault in various poster’s Christian witness, but how Christian are “PW’s” or any churchman really, who exhibits this kind of malice towards the ordinary people who criticize their deeds?
Errata: Fr. Treco.
ReplyDeleteMy apologies to our host. No one's ordaining you yet, Brother Tancred.
thank for the great posts.
And re the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church, only Vigano and perhaps the courageous witnesses the martyrs to the evil, perversity and wickedness of such priests gone rotten--like McCarrick and two or three dozen of Antipope Francis's closest friends--have done more.
ReplyDeleteWhich group are riends of yours, Peter W?
Peter, Gaybrielle, PW, Karl, or whichever sock puppet he employs is just a troll, but I think he’s one who is well-represented in the lay and clerical leadership of the modern Catholic Church.
DeleteThese are the kinds of venemous snakes in charge.
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ReplyDeleteSo?
DeleteTancred, so i am clear, this is your thought process: Vatican 2 was built on evil, this evil had another name, that is the Jews. Indeed, all evil traces its roots to the Jews. Jews are behind every evil thing that ever happened and even though we have to remind ourselves that we shouldn't harm Jews, which is astonishing, we can pretty much drag them through the mud.
ReplyDeleteUsing that tack, someone might say that Catholic priests have been molesting boys long before Vatican 2. Indeed that is why it was created, to be a refuge for deviant men. See how tragedy gets mixed with truth into a libel?
The Church has plenty of evil in it. The Jews are no more special than anyone else. And something tells me Jesus would be the last person to blame another group of people for something his ordained priests and bishops did.
Shameful on you,
The Jewish American Committee paid for and got most of what it wanted in Nostra Aetate.
DeleteShame on you for being their foot soldier.
JULY 9, 2019
ReplyDeletePopes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI interpreted Vatican Council II with the hypothetical red passages being practical exceptions to the orthodox blue passages which supported the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The result was heresy.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/popes-from-paul-vi-to-benedict-xvi.html
Catholic Mission,
DeleteSTOP spamming every Catholic comment section with your totally unrelated postings! You do this every single website you post on. Post your essays on your own blog, or take a hike.
Until I see the phone records or emails the notion that the bishop acted on the order of the Jewish community is ridiculous. Suns out-the Jews did it. It's raining-Jews did it. Car broke down-Jews did it. Where's your homework Tancred? Jews ate it. Good thing is if I get banned from the site we'll no who caused it-the Jews.
ReplyDeleteI merely suggested it as a possibility.
DeleteSaint Louis Park is at peak Talmudism, and they always complain about everything, and often find a hearing...
Tancred, the bishops that pushed V2 were not Jewish, John 23, Paul VI, St, Gellen Mafia, not Jewish. Let's assume you're right. The Jews are evil. Ok, who has the bigger sin? The Jews who wanted the Church to collapse or the Bishops who actually made it happen?
ReplyDeleteI had respect for this site, but the Truth always comes out. You're as Catholic as Bergolio.
Jesus gave us Truth. The Bishops were responsible for trying to destroy it.
You belong with Bergolio. And Luther. Luther hated Jews too.*
* Yes, hate. You don't disagree with them, as I do, you hate them and scapegoat them for everything. Sad.
That the AJC and AIPAC were involved in the Vatican Council is a well-established fact of history.
DeleteWhy do you hate Christ? Clearly you do, for you presume to put words in His followers mouths on behalf of those who murdered Him.
And I believe it has been established that most if not all of the post-conciliar claimants have tribal heritage. As did some of the council fathers. Bea and Cushing come to mind.
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ReplyDeleteYou presume too much. You don’t know enough about me to say what you’re saying, and you want to make exceptions that suit your own ox. Thanks for admitting that!
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ReplyDeleteIn Charity, you should stop and think about what you are thinking.
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ReplyDeleteThe popes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI interpreted the red passages in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This was irrational.
The popes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI interpreted the red passages in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This was irrational.
They also interpreted the red passages in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to the orthodox blue passages in the Council text.This was an error.
This was human error and it was not magisterial.
This is a reason why Fr. Vaughn Treco finds Vatican Council II heretical.He also is interpreting Vatican Council II with the red passages being exceptions to the blue ones. He has made the same mistake as Bishop Lopes.
If he would avoid this irrationality in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council would support 16th century EENS and an ecumenism of return.EENS was the basis for the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation.
The popes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI whom Fr. Vaughn Treco criticizes in his sermon, were influenced by the error ; the bad reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office (CDF)1949.-Lionel Andrades
MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS CAN BE INTERPRETED WITH 1)THE RED PASSAGESBEING AN EXCEPTION TO THE BLUE PASSAGES OR WITH 2)THE RED PASSAGES NOT BEING AN EXCEPTION TO THE BLUE PASSAGES.THE LATTER(2) IS RATIONAL.
Continued
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-popes-from-paul-vi-to-benedict-xvi.html
Lets first be clear about 1 thing. The "AJC and AIPAC were involved in the Vatican Council". Christ died for their sins too. But the AJC and AIPAC are not "Jews". This word does not exist anymore. It refers by St. Paul to the Israelites who crucified and refused to believe in the Christ. They had a corrupt priesthood, as we do today. As He destroyed the corrupt priests (AND HIGH PRIEST)so God will no doubt soon put to death the false and corrupt Vatican and those conspiring with the occupying Americanist republic and world order. However, the AJC and AIPAC are atheist and freemason zionist organizations. They do not represent all hebrews with all their ultrareligious and even sometimes ultra hateful of Israel.
ReplyDeletePlease read here:
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ultra-orthodox-anti-zionist/
Those others, who don't belong to these more religious groups are are more like Bergoglio: pragmatism outranks justice and faith in God.
Who do AIPAC and AJC represent then, and why do they have so much power over Catholic institutions, hmm?
DeleteThe connection of today’s Pharisees and yesterday’s is a useful one to make.
ReplyDeleteCaiaphas and Annas loved power and money above all. To which the Bergoglian court and party—aka the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church (and its U. S. wing—the USCCB—and the German episcopacy and so many others) adds unnatural vice.
Other than that they’re identical.
Re: "The popes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI interpreted the red passages in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This was irrational."
ReplyDeleteI don't think the Popes were irrational. Rather were intentional. The entire point of Vatican II was to Protestantize the Catholic Church. This has now largely been accomplished. Most Catholics are Protestant in their moral thinking and actions.
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DeleteBishop Lopes has no qualms distributing communion to abortion supporting politicians and the homosexual marriage supporting laity of his diocese but he "excommunicates" a holy faithful Catholic priest? Our Lady of Lourdes pray for us.
ReplyDeleteFather Treco is excommunicated but Cardinal McCarrick, a homo-predator , is chosen by Pope Francis to represent the Vatican in diplomatic relations with Red China? Only after the media finds out about McCarrick's past does Pope Francis retire him to a monastery but even McCarrick isn't excommunicated.
ReplyDeleteThis sort of thing where orthodox priests get punished and evil modernists are extolled is a feature of this time.
ReplyDeleteWe have enough scandals going in Minnesota as it is, with the homo-predator monks of infamous St. John's Abbey, and then wayward LGBT parishes like Joan of Arc in Minneapolis. Jesus, you can come back any time now! The reasons for any firing should be made public, and made very clear.
ReplyDeleteThere are Thuc line,
DeleteSSPV,
SSPX-Resistance,
and SSPX Chapels in Minnesota.
Check them out,they're keeping the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and Traditional Sacraments (including valid priests and bishops) alive during the current emergency.
-Andrew
¨The reasons for any firing should be made public, and made very clear.¨
ReplyDeleteNew Church acknowledges only one sin and Fr. Treco is thus guilty for that he is banished, excommunicated, publically mocked, humilated and deprived of Faculities.
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ReplyDeleteRe: "The popes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI interpreted the red passages in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This was irrational."
I don't think the Popes were irrational. Rather were intentional. The entire point of Vatican II was to Protestantize the Catholic Church. This has now largely been accomplished. Most Catholics are Protestant in their moral thinking and actions.
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Lionel: Yes but now we can interpret the red passages as not being exceptions to the blue passages and the conclusion is traditional and orthodox. Why do you not interpret the Council II in this way ?
-Lionel Andrades
JULY 17, 2019
Priest in Canada writes politically- correct- with- the- Left article on Dominus Iesus
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-in-canada-writes-politically.html