Politicalized Church: What is driving the church representatives? What are their aims? Italy's Minister of the Interior is vilified for his actions against illegal mass immigration as a "possessd", "devil" dictator and Nazi henchman - by Church officials. How can that be? In the picture P. Alex Zanotelli (left) and Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini (Lega).
(Rome) The media of the Italian Bishops' Conference and other official Catholic media are attacking Italy's newInterior Minister with unprecedented sharpness. Reason is its course against the illegal mass immigration. Under the aegis of Pope Francis, a politicization of the church takes place. Here, the official church representatives have "unconditionally" committed to the globalist immigration agenda. As the?
Church as the military arm of the globalist agenda?
Matteo Salvini, national chairman of the Lega and since June 1 Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister, is currently the villain of the united left. This gives Victor Orban relief in particular, and a little too Donald Trump. Hardly a day goes by that left-wing groups, some of whom identify with Marxist traditions, others to radical-liberal traditions, do not stage a media uproar. At present, they are outraged by the Salvini statement, "There is much honor in having many enemies," as Benito Mussolini said. The intent behind it is as transparent as a high mountain stream: Salvini is to be closely comparedto a fascist dictator. In fact, it is a statement of the most famous German Landsknechtführer Jörg von Frundsberg, who said it half a millennium ago. To be specific, at a time when Martin Luther had not even formulated his Reformation theses.
Immigrants demonstrate for open ports
Immigrants demonstrate for open ports. The protest was organized by Catholic clerics like Don Ciotti and P. Zanotelli.
A group of religious began a hunger strike as Salvini closed the tug route across the Mediterranean and sent illegal immigrants back to Libya. The group is led by Comboni missionary, Alex Zanotelli, who runs in radical left-wing circles and stands out for political, but not religious commitment.
But not only Zanotelli, even official Catholic media attacks the minister and priests preach against him.
Since then, it is not only the Italian Lega (formerly Lega Nord) who has wondered whether the Church has become a left-wing political fighting organization. The situation is similar in the Federal Republic of Germany in the relationship of Cardinal Marx to the AfD. Anyone who expresses unconditional and dubious political (non-religious) attacks on a political party, as the President of the German Bishops' Conference has done, should not be surprised that this party demands the abolition of the already controversial Church-tax. Marx is now ready to attack Bavaria's Prime Minister Söder of the CSU. Also there is an Italian parallel. But how far do you have to look to the left to find a political party that satisfies Cardinal Marx? No wonder that there is talk of a new "Church Marxism". It should not be forgotten that Cardinal Marx himself declared in December 2017:
"I am sure that we will experience a renaissance of Marxism".
A Green politician wants to make Salvini into the Führer
The independent Catholic Internet newspaper La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana speaks of a "tangible and declared hate of the Catholic intelligentsia, including the hierarchs, against Salvini.”. Impagliazzo, the leader of the community of Sant'Egidio, alleged Salvini was building concentration camps in harmony with the radical left as well as National Socialism. Why? Because the Minister of the Interior wants to carry out a count of the Gypsies, who are indiscriminately called “Roma” in Italy due to new, politically correct language rules.
Antonio Spadaro: “the cross is never a symbol of identity.”
Since the opening of the border after the end of the Eastern Bloc, their number in Italy has almost quadrupled due to immigration, often illegally. There could be more, because nobody knows that exactly. The majority is sedentary. In addition, there are tens of thousands who live as nomads in mostly illegal tent and caravan camps on the outskirts of the big cities and are held responsible by the security forces for numerous crimes.
Salvini considers this state of illegality to be intolerable in a constitutional state and, above all, wants to take stock of it. He accuses his critics of creating artificial whirlwinds out of mere criticism - in the worst case, even to promote legal uncertainty and a breach of the law. The same circles have already tolerated and promoted a hundred-thousandfold breach of law through illegal immigration. One should not be surprised if this breach of law should be extended to other areas.
The extent to which the political left is heating up the issue was demonstrated by an Austrian politician from of the Greens. On July 30, he invited Salvini to visit the former Mauthausen concentration camp: "I will even make you 'Führer'."
Unholy alliance: Salvini, "a possessed"
Catholic Church representatives today blithely form an unholy alliance with the left. Unholy because political, and that is not without peril for the Church. Father Antonio Spadaro, editor of the Roman Jesuit magazine La Civiltà Cattolica and close confidant of Pope Francis, dedicated an editorial to Salvini in which he identified the Minister of the Interior as someone possessed by the devil. The Catholic weekly Famiglia Cristiana put the picture of the Minister of the Interior on the front page and ambiguously headlined: "Vade retro, Salvini".
Even in high ranking church circles, one seems to have lost sight of proportionality in daily combat, which is determined by political issues.
Above all, the question arises as to what these church representatives are fighting for. Hardly for the cause of Christ and the Church. So whose carts can you harness? Who pulls the strings here? Why this uncritical pace with a specific, also an agenda alien to the Church?
Church representatives such as Fr. Spadaro, of whom it is difficult to assume that he acts without backing and commission from Santa Marta, or the ecclesiastical weekly newspaper Famiglia Cristiana, which under Francis has moved even more politically to the left than it already was, or Avvenire, the similarly oriented daily newspaper of the Italian Episcopal Conference, unabashedly claims to be the "People of God".
Are they aware that they implicitly claim that the voters of the current Italian government, more than 50 percent of the electorate, are not part of the People of God? But the Lega, which campaigns for it - like the CSU under Bavaria's prime minister Markus Söder - that the crucifix isshould be posted in schools and offices, quadrupled in the parliamentary elections in March, and received more than 17 percent. In recent surveys, it is now over 30 percent. What about the vociferously demanded "inclusion"?
The mental dam failure that occurred in the Church under the pretext of the Second Vatican Council leads to an unexpected confusion. Even high church representatives seem to be losing understanding of the metaphysical dimension. They see the Church above all as a civil-religious moral institution to promote an ideological direction instead of the faith. The gaze is directed to the material world. But where do these Christians differ from socialists, liberals or other ideologues?
Practicing Catholics are alienated from their Church
The development involves many dangers. It promotes an alienation of the very faithful from the Church, which until now was not thought to be very possible, as they were especially faithful. For a long time, progressive Church circles have scarcely cared for what the ecclesiastical chief shepherds say, including the Pope. It was different with the faithful Catholics. The (left) politicization of the Church, carried on by Pope Francis and by his confidants without real shame, is driving practicing Catholics to distance themselves from a Church with which they can identify less and less. Can a chief sheir want that?
Salvini's answer: "I am the last among the good Christians, but I think that I do not deserve such a thing".
The Lega and the Five-Star Movement, which have been forming Italy's government since June 1, have understood the sentiment of a majority of the people with a more attentive instinct. This feeling is now so far that it - and this is new - does not even care about appeals from the Pope. A statement that is actually worrying for Church circles and devout Catholics.
However, Pope Francis has the main responsibility with his appalling and irresponsible appeals, such as in late summer 2015, when he euphemistically described illegal mass immigration - a "wave of refugees" - reached a climax when, without the slightest differentiation in Europe, he urged governments: "Take all on, good and bad.” A majority of Italians apparently have the common sense that someone is playing a gambling game with them. How a pope could be carried away by such and similar statements puzzles even attentive observers of the pope. The former Italian President of the Senate, the philosopher Marcello Pera, a friend of Benedict XVI, accused Francis of not proclaiming the gospel, but of pursuing politics, "only politics.”
The Church is getting a political problem - provoking it itself
In 1992, the Christian Democratic Party of Italy, the Democrazia Cristiana (DC), collapsed on allegations of corruption. Since its founding, this party has had a stronger urge to lean to the left than to conservative positions, and has also interpreted the Christian social doctrine accordingly. Since then, political Catholicism has been orphaned. Following the basic tendency of the DC, most of its former apparatus entered into an alliance with the political left. This resulted in the Democratic Party (PD) ten years ago as the left-wing People's Party, based on the American model. The Catholic hierarchy also made this swing, at first hesitantly, but since Pope Francis, almost unconditionally.
The reorientation of the Italian electorate - the PD was voted out in March and received only 18 percent of the vote - poses a political problem for the Catholic aristocracy. The churches in Italy are still well-attended. The churches are still full. There is a strong community of faithful believers who silently follow the preachings of the priests, but then choose Salvini in the polling booth. In other words, they do the opposite of what the ecclesiastical aristocracy, ie the bishops and the pope, want.
In Austria, a similar migration of Catholic voters to the FPÖ began in the 1990s. Also in the Federal Republic of Germany a comparable tendency to the AfD is recognizable. And that, even though these Catholics in Austria, in Germany as well as in Italy are treated by Church representatives like lepers.
This promotes the decoupling of practicing Catholics from the ecclesiastical hierarchy. But this seems to be unaffected, although this can lead to a still hardly estimable erosion process.
The Catholic publicist Rino Cammilleri wrote recently in the direction of bishops:
"If I were in their place, I would first order a nice survey to feel the pulse of the faithful."
It was right, Cammilleri said, that the clergy should not depend on surveys in their sermons. But what about?
"One used to say: from the doctrine of faith. But the doctrine was banished to the attic because 'it is not a club to be used against the faithful'. "
But what does the current globalist agenda of Church leadership depend on? This should be revealed to the people of God for honesty.
The geopolitics of the Holy See under Pope Francis
New edition of the geopolitical magazine "Limes": Francis and the situation of the Church
A few days ago, on 25 July, the Vatican premiered the presentation of the latest edition of the geopolitical journal Limes. The publication, which also functions as a think tank, is clearly located in the left spectrum. The volume is entitled "Francis and the situation of the Church" and is dedicated to "the geopolitics of the Holy See".
The speaker was Fr. Antonio Spadaro, who commented on the situation of the Church under Pope Francis:
"Initiating processes is more important than taking control of space. Anyone who still expects after five years [Francis] that the Church will build their hospitals and stop being a field hospital the Pope spoke of, has not understood anything about the Church, which is either a field hospital or is not Church.”
Anyone who wonders after such words, why the faithful are disoriented, has really understood nothing.
Interior Minister Salvini is a "possessed" because he has closed Italy's ports for illegal hauling? What understanding of evil do Spadaro and the Famiglia Cristiana want to promote? The decline in the circulation figures of the Famiglia Cristiana and the high polling for the Lega speak a clear language.
Salvini wants the crucifix to hang in the schools. What does the normal believer think about it? He is pleased. What does Pope confidant Spadaro think about it?
"Using the crucifix like any Big Jim [Big Stick] is blasphemous. The cross is a sign of protest against sin, violence, injustice and death. It is not a sign of identity. It screams for love of the enemy and unconditional acceptance. Steer clear of it. "
The result of such reinterpretations? The Pope, the bishops and the priests are going in one direction and their people are going in a different direction.
Speaking of cross and identity. Many peoples and states have the cross in their banner, just because it is a sign of their identity.
"I converted to the Church, not a humanitarian NGO"
Rino Cammilleri, who stood on entirely different barricades in 1968 as a left-wing extremist, notes the politicization of the Church under Pope Francis:
"Personally, I belong to the great number of converts who have converted to Church and not to a humanitarian NGO."
If Church officials continue like this, Cammilleri says, "a hothead will jump out and declare a Church-tax boycott. At the latest, then, the opinion of the people will also gain importance for your eminences."
This also applies to the German-speaking area.
What remains unanswered is the oppressive question of how this development could come about, and what the welcome prelates, who cling so close to the pro-immigration welcoming politicians, are aiming at with this dangerous game. And what drives them?
Your shot fired without any visible adversity can easily backfire. But they won’t be the ones to suffer, but the Church.
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: NBQ / FC / Limes (Screenshots)
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
AMDG
It is all about the "new world order". Read Malachi Martin. An amalgamated religion is being created to go with the coming one world government. Pope Francis is laying the foundation for the A.C. and it is not air conditioning to stave off the effects of the devil.
ReplyDeleteThey are in the pocket of the new (((sanhedrin))). Like all protestants, these fake Catholics are judaizers.
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to bring Jews into it (judaizers?), Sanhedrin, etc. It's all the supremely evil man in the Vatican. Just like they foolishely called (and some still call) John Paul II the Great, it's now Pope Francis the Heretic, the Apostate.
ReplyDeleteUnless there's a movement from the bottom up (laity), to rid the Church of Francis and his people, then we deserve all the filth they concoct, and there's no point having blogs that support CAtholic tradition if in the end people do nothing to stop Francis, etc.
Damian Malliapalli
Civil cattolica said the same thing "whoever does not obey Christian princes and the laws they have written will be ruled by Jews." That is what has happened, that's why I brought the Jews into it.
DeleteFor the increasingly delusional Nardi, practically anything that could be described as change or departure from the status quo after Gregory VII amounts to modernism.
ReplyDeleteNardi and those who share his exotic world view are just as allergic to a shift away from their ideological fixed university are no different from the ideologs running ISIS, Salafism or Wahabism.
It's the left that has brought terrorists in our country.
DeleteIt's the left that demonizes whoever doesn't support them, implying that we hate blacks and would kill them if we could.
It's the left that stages fake racist incidents.
It's the left that promotes abortion and gay marriage and anti-homophobia laws and surrogacy and gender theory all kind of perversion.
It's the left that runs a judicial system where "excess of self-defense" can mean jailtime, while an illegal who murders and dissects a girl (Pamela Mastropietro) is protected by them against "racism" desperately trying to find him innocent.
It's the left who despise fascism in words but is much worse than fascists in fact.
It's the left who defends the perpetrators of the Istrian genocide, as they defended invasion of Hungary in 1956 and Khmer Rouge in 1975.
It's the left that has reduced wonderful cities like Bologna and Naples to dirty, dangerous places.
Only, we may be stupid and lazy and have all kind of defects. But we're (at least nominally) Catholic, proud of that, and we have a set amount of tolerance. Above that amount, any SJW, even in politics, would just be told to STFU.
In fact, where did Trump win in 2016 in NYC? Staten Island.
So please, STFU.
But two men sodomizing each other isn't irrational to you, is it John? You've defended it on this site. What a surprise that you would cheer on the destruction of the European race.
DeleteAnd it's characters like you who are the natural allies and supports of Hitler, Franco, Pinochet, Marcos, Duterte and the rest of those goosestepping moronic haters of the human race.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, Jackboot, you get a brown shirt and a riding crop.
Go licking Lenin and Uncle Joe's boot, you scum.
DeleteAs the communist newspaper L'Unità titled on 3/6/1953: "Eternal glory to comrade Stalin, the man who did most for the progress and liberation of humanity".
DeleteWe're still waiting for an apology from your friends, bloody dumbster.
Everything I don’t like is a Nazi. How petulant. We could all use a Franco right now.
DeleteYou have a problem, book burners, the original socialist community in existence was composed of first Christians in Jerusalem who share everything in common and all got whatever they needed.
ReplyDeleteYou people don't know what to do with than and haven't been able to handle the Church's social Gospel articulated in papal Encyclicals especially since Rerum Novarum. You're cherry picking cafeteria Catholics.
Apostles were book burners, and so are we.
DeleteThey did so voluntarily, no government forced them to do so.
DeleteRemember, stealing is a mortal sin.
Btw, the largest information censorship in the world is enforced by socialist China.
It’s ever so comical how the progressives cobble a contemporary Christianity suitable to the modern world, picking the best archaizing cherries to justify their totalitarianism.
DeleteThese developments shouldn't surprise us. Pope Francis is a willing and eager tool of the globalist, John XXIII was a Mason, and Paul VI was a commie (among other things!). There is plenty more dirt to uncover. The Papacy takes its orders from its bosses and the Vatican apparatchiks take their orders from the pope.
ReplyDeleteHitler and Axis thugs damn near destroyed entire peoples of 'the European race' and justified the 'final solution' on the grounds of vermin eradication, economic equilibrium, eugenics and racial homogenization.
ReplyDeleteHas it ever occurred to you, Anon 1:46, that at the Nuremberg trials the surviving Nazi hierarchs and their chief compliant collaborators were prosecuted under a new legal charge, 'Crimes against humanity.' The same legal process was followed in Japan after 1945.
Your role model goose-steppers were overly represented in the sexual deviation department so your own fixation on sodomy is understandable. Get some help with that.
I am Legion, for we are many.
ReplyDeleteNothing compared to degenerates like your Soviet pals.
ReplyDeleteAnd, in addition to the riding crop and brown shirt, you win the bonus prize of a limited edition 'Gott mit uns' belt buckle.
ReplyDeleteHappy Kristall Nacht, Barney
@Jeff K: My uncle was a military Catholic priest who was a chaplain at Nuremberg. The Nazi leadership was justifiably given the death penalty and this priest was there to hear their final confessions. He was Irish but had to be fluent in German. Most of the German leadership was Lutheran.---So, would Francis condone the death penalty for these "clowns"? I presume that he would say that we have evolved away from the need to preserve society with force. You have to know that he has never visited the People's Republic of Chicago.---When one of these gang bangers kills a cop or executes a correctional officer, just how do you further punish them? Since Francis is "kinder and gentler", I would presume that he would advocate slapping them on the wrist.---Just why do you think that there is very little crime in a Communist country. Anyone who rejects Communism and its utopia such as Cardinal Mindszenty were viewed as either a criminal or mentally ill. When the revolution in Hungary occurred, the Communist elite were appalled at the attack on the perfect order established by the Bolsheviks who were nothing more than radical followers of Judas Iscariot.
ReplyDeleteDon't hold back. Tell us what's really eating you up, Genghis.
ReplyDeleteIdeologues like Spadaro stopped believing in real Catholicism a long time ago. What are they fighting for? The opium of neo-Marxism.
ReplyDeleteSpadaro has never stopped believing in real Catholicism. He has stopped believing in the distorted notion that 'Christendom' had anything remotely in common with Jesus Christ, the Grace of God or the mystery of salvation. It's only the ideologs tearing about yelling 'viva Criso rey' who cling to that rotting corpse. It's mainly the lunatic remnant at the shrieking mad Lepanto Institute who cut off their noses to spite their faces.
ReplyDelete(((Jeff Kennett))) is a provocationary marxist. We should ignore his pathetic taunts.
ReplyDeleteTrad 101, Jeff is just one of his many masks (Boris, Clement, John, ec.). Obviously he is a disturbed person and tireless anticatholic troll. We suspect he is also a NO priest, judging by his immersion in modernist heresy.
ReplyDeleteOr a Viri Probati.
ReplyDeleteWell, he is definitely probatus, just not in virtues. And judging by his agitation when sodomy is rightly condemned, he is probably not a vir in Christian sense. So yeah, he could be one of NO Viri Probati.
ReplyDeleteOr a virus.
DeleteI'll bet he is a priest in his early to mid 70's, and mavbe even in Britian by some of the things he has said (typical British expressions)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, reminds me of a rad liberal Augustinian priest I had in college in the early years of Pope Benedict XVI. His contemptuous comments for Benedict (like CNN's contempt for Trump), were non-stop. The priest was 100% pro-LGBT, in favor of women priests, married priests, and intercommunon with Protestants. He ad-libbed the entire Mass, until his superior ordered him to tone down his dissident style in the classroom. He's dead, but he'd fit right into the Pope Francis mold of a "priest", so does "Boris, Clement, John, Gaybriell (have I missed any more of his multiple personalities?)
I stand with the SSPX, and with Italian politicians like Salvini over Pope Bergoglio and his slugs any day.
Bergoglio just changed the Catholic Catechism to reflect his own, personal views on the death penalty. He's condemned the death penalty, and now claims that the Church condemns it for any reason. Totally contrary to previous Catholic belief....what a surprise.
I am sure, like most of what spews from the mouth of Pope Francis, true Catholics will ignore him, or strongly counter him with Catholic Truth on the subject.
Cheers for Salvini, a kick in the rear for Bergoglio and company.
Damian Malliapalli
I think the Legion is happy with the new doctrine. It's very progressive and entire world approves of it so it must be good. The world also very much loves pope Francis, so surely he's doing a great job.
ReplyDeleteDamian, good observations. Anyone of us here would at least reveal age, occupation and country. But Legion hides it like the snake hides it's legs (as phrase goes).
ReplyDeleteHe might be a priest, ex seminarian, "theologian", or some church bureaucrat. But he is/was in the modernist system - broken logic, heterodoxy and arrogance indicates that. Some random NO layman would not be so poisonous and would lose interest long ago, but not Legion. He must see the revolution through :)
The Remnant is rattled. No wonder their little domain of Nostalgia is disintegrating so rapidly.
ReplyDeleteThe dinosaur died as a result of not being able to adapt to new circumstances and their walnut size brains didn't help.
Anon.at 1:28
ReplyDeleteVery cool, your observations. Exactly right, no layman however radical he may be would push an agenda with such venom as "Boris,Clement,John,Gaybriel, etc.etc." A layman would not have such a driving passion to ridicule,debase, etc. Catholic tradition and cheer those who do (Francis and company). A layman might be a liberal, but really couldn't care less beyond that. He wouldn't know the issues, or have such views. So....our evil friend is probably a priest...and I'm guessing also a member of a really liberal religious Order (maybe Jesuit) because he defends Mr. Bigmouth- Opinion-for-Everything Pope Francis so passionately. The only other people I ever saw defend the cause of radical progressive dissident Catholicism were a handful of old lady Sisters of Mercy that were our parish. The convent was built in the 1930's for 20 sisters. They were down to three afew years ago, and are gone now. But when I went to Mass there in college, we could always count on them pushing the dissident envelope.
Our man "Boris, Clement, John, Gabriell" is probably like that. A burnt out but momentarily feeling triumphant priest/former priest basking in wave after wave of heresy/near heresy/heterodoxy from the pontificate of Pope Francis .
I hope he enjoys his moment. Won't last too much longer ! Then he's in for a rude awakening ! :)
Damian Malliapalli
The Remnant is rattled and now wonder. It has been obvious to the dispassionate observer and even the clearer thinking AltRight that the edifice is crumbling, that the Nostalgia movement has gone lame and that its remaining ideologs have run out of syllogisms. Games over Knights and Ladies. The Czar and the Hapsburgs, whom St Alphonsus Ligouri described as the most useless rulers in history, Louis XVI and his powder puffs are all as dead as a door nail and so is the static Church that validated them.
ReplyDeleteRenewal is of the Church and it doesn't mean minor adjustments to Canon Law. It means change and adapting the face of Christ to new ages, new cultures, new cultures.
Now, that's a challenge isn't it, chaps and chapesses?
DeleteYour 68ers are the ones becoming increasingly, rapidly discredited, while Bergoglio’s desperate attempt to disparage and draw attention away from the righteous anger of the people of God by attacking the very means by which evil buggers like elderly hippy clergy like Daneels and his creatures ought to be dealt with.
Then stop publishing antiquarian, nostalgia, restorationist bullshit articles hankering back to the good old days of the monarchy, Pius V, X, the syllabus of errors and the rest of the agenda of the UberAltRight end of the Catholic spectrum. Start talking about the real world and the ways Christ would be calling his Church to respond to the challenges of the 21 century, not the 19th, and what Catholics can realistically do to achieve reform. Venting and ranting will get nowhere. The key to positive reform is to advocate for things that are changeable now because they are doable, reasonable and Christlike.
ReplyDeleteGet off the Bergolio bashing and take an honest look at your own appalling negativity and the culture of despair you are fostering.
Begoglio and the 68rs are not your problem. You and your followers are.
The theological, trascendental bell bottoms, scriptural blue jeans, philosophically senile, liturgical puppets and folk guitars are what haven’t aged well.
DeleteWhy can’t you admit that Bergoglio and his pedophile enablers need to be shown the door for the safety and welfare of children everywhere?
The kite flying distractive nonsense are expected from defensive sloppy thinkers like yourself people like who haven't got what it takes to engage in a serious discussion.
ReplyDeleteYou can't break out of your the long habit of knee jerk reactiveness so it is no surprise to see you still accusing people of turning a blind eye to episcopal blindness and cover ups and the rest of the catalog of dysfunctional governance.
People have suggested often before on this site that the ecclesiastical culture of clericalism, secrecy and lack of accountability would be almost totally eliminated overnight if the 'Pontifical Secret' reaffirmed in Paul VI's 1974 'Secreta Continere' was removed from Canon Law. At the moment it still requires bishops and religious superiors not to report paedophiles to civil authorities unless there is a requirement of mandatory reporting.
So, shut up, quit the evasive caricatures and do something useful with your life such as: galvanize your follower(s) to write to their bishops demanding that they write to the Pope to insist on the deletion of this requirement from the Church's Law.
Let me know the result.
Even if the 1983 Canon Law were abrogated and the 1917 were modified and reinstated, evil Bishops like Marx, Schönborn, Sodano, Hunthausen and Daneels would continue to ignore it, or at least work around it, ignoring the letter of not the spirit of the law.
ReplyDeleteNot that this has anything to do with the OP.
That's all assertion. How do you know for sure what any of these bishops would or would not do?
ReplyDeleteA constant feature of comments by people who think as you do is to make totally unChrist-like moral judgments on those you dislike. "evil bishops....", 'sodomites' etc. This is exactly the kind of reckless amoral behaviour that has become the mark of Cain on the foreheads of characters like the unsatisfactory Mundabor, some of your commenters and sometimes yourself. You dump on bishops for ignoring Church Law. What about you and your mates ignoring the Gospel imperative be just.
Ultimately it backfires and damns your views as too extreme to be taken seriously.
You’re the one assuming the worst in people, calling them racially charged names, or presuming to know the state of their souls.
DeleteAnd you come back again and again with the same old story, changing up your identity and pathologically offering your own little piece of bat guano.
I’m sorry but can’t accomodate your disordered habitual pathology.
Bat guano, lol, that's the word... But that guy will not give up and leave, since obviously he is personally engaged whenever heresy and sodomy are the topic. I wish there was a way to track/block IP.
DeleteThere’s a way to block the isp on the platform, but it involves coding.
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