Edit: Anyone in contact with a regular parish setting knows that most priests don’t care if they’re giving Communion to whomever, or whatever. It makes one wonder, that if anything goes on in most NO parishes at all, why safeguard it from sacrilege? It’s just an empty symbol, right? After all, most NO parishes don’t have much respect for the Blessed Sacrament, hence only a minority of Catholics really believe in the real presence.
It’s “common practice” in Germany that Protestants in "mixed marriages" receive Communion, Stefan Orth writes on the German bishops' katholisch.de (February 19). He mentions that the bishops meet this week in order to push for Holy Communion for Protestants.
According to Orth, it is “inconsistent” for the bishops that Protestants are allowed to receive Holy Communion during the wedding ceremony with a Catholic spouse but not afterwards.
This argument is flawed. First, Protestants who do not believe in the Eucharist (otherwise they were not Protestants) and never go to confession which is a precondition for receiving the sacrament, are never allowed to receive Communion. Second, Orth hushes up that for decades it has been a common practice in his country to invite all Protestants to receive Holy Communion. So what the bishops push for, has already been introduced.
This shows the pattern according to which Germany and later the Vatican subvert the Catholic faith: They first tolerate outrageous abuses and then proceed to "legalising" them.
Germany has a big Moslem population. It is a question of time until those Moslems will be invited to receive Communion, if they are not already.
AMDG
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Yeah, well you know, pedophile perverts hang together.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iraqi-refugee-raped-10-year-old-boy-swimming-pool-vienna-austria-sentence-conviction-overturned-a7377491.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html
To be expected...
Karl
To my surprise the other day I heard a Celebrant, at Mass, refer to being in a "State of Grace" prior to Communion being distributed - he was an Ordinariate priest!
Michael Vorus and Brad Eli at Church Militant TV are not willing to say that all Muslims in Detroit with no known exceptions are on the way to Hell unless they enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism (AG 7),and that they need to be members of the Church to be saved.
Like the liberals at Detroit CMTV holds that invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Bradley Eli has posted reports in which LG 14 is considered relevant and an exception to traditional EENS.
Michael has a Vortex program in which possibilities of salvation known only to God are considered relevant and exceptions to the understanding of EENS according to the misionaries in the 16th cnetury.
For the missionaries and magisterium in the 16th century all Muslims were oriented to Hell with no exceptions. It was the same for Jews and Protestants.
So CMTV like our present two living and liberal popes are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church on EENS.
With their invisible people are visible premise they have also interpreted Vatican Council II with the hermeneutic of rupture.
So when Michael says outside the Church there is no salvation and there are only Catholics in Heaven he and I mean two different things.
CMTV refuses to support Feneyite EENS.
For me Fr. Leonard Feeney was teaching orthodoxy and there were no practical exceptions to EENS then and now.
Similarly Archbishop Lefebvre was correct in rejecting Vatican Council II(Cushingite) interpreted with the irrational premise but he did not know that Vatican Council II could also be interpreted without the BOD -refers -to -known -people premise.
For me all Muslims and other non Catholics are oriented to Hell and they are outside the Church(AG 7, Vatican Council II) and so they should not be given the Eucharist. They are not part of the community and do not share our Catholic beliefs in as much Catholics in mortal sin should not receive the Eucharist.
Not to believe in Jesus and to enter the Church is a mortal sin of faith.
God the Father wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church(CCC 845), the Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the flood(CCC 846), outside the Church there is no salvation(Athanasius Creed),the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water, all need the baptism of water for salvation(John 3:5), those who do not believe says Jesus will be condemned (Mark 16:16).
We cannot know of any BOD,BOB and I.I cases in 2018 who are exceptions to John 3:5 and Mark 16:16.
-Lionel Andrades
February 20, 2018
For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/for-me-cmtv-is-in-heresy-they-are-in.html
You know what? You make a very valid point. My brother just returned from three years in Afghanistan as a civilian contractor. He relates the same tales or is it "tails". Of course, we are in a position of looking the other way because of military alliances. It sure is sad. ----Nevertheless, it sure opens a parallel universe in the Catholic Church and its priest propensity to do the same thing without punishment. It would now appear that forces in the Vatican are looking the other way in the same way. This brave Marine, Buckley, was soon killed by the very (tea boy) forces of which he had warned. Obviously, he was a "chip off the old block" and instilled with the ideals of his own father. The father should be sad but down deep very proud of his son much as in the story of Abraham and Isaac.
Michael Voris is a proverbial "pain in the rump" and may God bless him for it. He too had a father who inspired him and who just passed away.
I can easily imagine Moslems being invited to receive communion but no Moslem could accept because he would thereby be endorsing what he sees as idolatry. And Moslems have strong principles.
Please be cautious when making sweeping statements about Protestants not believing in the Eucharist. Anglicans of the « anglo-catholic » persuasion believe in the Eucharist and they have services of benediction for it. But they still should not be invited to receive communion because, whatever they say, their sacraments are still invalid.
I think he is doing a good job and may God bless him for it. I only want him to take up this issue. There is confusion in Detroit.
FEBRUARY 28, 2018
At Detroit theology has to be done with the teachings of the Catholic Church otherwise it becomes Protestant theology. Also it has to be done with magisterial documents interpreted without the common irrational premise.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/at-detroit-theology-has-to-be-done-with.html
FEBRUARY 27, 2018
Cardinal Ratzinger and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria in Christianity and the World Religions(ITC 1997) are in schism with the past Church Councils and popes.They can issue a correction if they want to
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/cardinal-ratzinger-and-cardinal-luiz.html
FEBRUARY 27, 2018
So the charge of schism can now be made against the liberal Catholic faculty in Detroit .It can be made by Bishop Donald Sanborn against Dr.Robert Fastiggi.The tables have turned.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/so-charge-of-schism-can-be-made-against.html
FEBRUARY 26, 2018
Ralph Martin, Fr.Gerald Collins, Eduardo Echeverria,Gavin D'Costa and others make an objective mistake in the Homilectic and Pastoral Review
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/ralph-martin-frgerald-collins-eduardo.html
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