Is there a story that goes with this photo.....looks pretty expected to me, Pope praying at altar. But I know enough Latin to know that roughly, "Non Serviam" means, "I will not serve." Was the Pope confronted by good priests who spoke against him this AM...like it was reported in another story here? I hope so. The big crowds who came out for his arrival were impressive,but not giagantic. I hope for his appearances the crowds are well below expectation. I also know enough to know that if Francis was/will be confronted by good traditional priests...the secular and most Catholic press will not report it. Damian Malliapalli
the story, Damian, is that he will not kneel before the majesty of the True Presence....even with a prie-dieu conspicuously placed for him to do just that. He. will. not. kneel.
....at least not for God. so...he either does not believe, OR he believes and stands in defiance (notice--everyone else is kneeling), usually glaring.
“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” funny thing is, bergoglio seems to forget what the following verse says. funny that.
Why won't ANYONE ask him publicly why he won't kneel to the Blessed Sacrament or at Mass? He usually has no hesitation for shooting off at the mouth so maybe he'll say why.
Possibly this is another indication that the Holy Father subscribes to Eastern Christian thinking and practice on a number of issues, including eucharistic adoration, as here.
Yes, Susan, I saw it a short time ago. Made me shake all over!! Glad you got a link to it.....I tried to go back and it was gone, so I thought it may be in his archives, but when I looked.....not there. JUST PRAY!!! I cannot imagine what may be coming.....don't think I want to go there.
No disrespect intended, buddy, but that's ridiculous. Complete violation of valid judgement when we've seen Bergoglio time and time again not kneeling to reverence the Blessed Sacrament as everone else does at ceremonieshe officiates at. Remember too, that unlike Benedict XVI and John Paul II, he does not even participate in the Corpus Christi procession, kneeling or sitting(they provide a chair for the Pope), in the carriage/truck/popemobile which carries the Blessed Sacrament solemnly thru Rome to Santa Maria Maggiore. He just blessed everyone with the Monstrance at the end. He is of the Vatican II generation, when they encouraged people not to kneel, not to show respect for the Mass and Catholic traditions, not to genuflect etc.etc. But that doesn't excuse him. He knws what is expected, and does the opposite. He has no respect for the Blessed Sacrament, or even the Catholic Church. Not kneeling before the Blessed Sacrament in Colombia I am sure will enrage many people, who do still have deep respect for Catholic traditions. So Woody, Buddy Man, your argument isn't valid. It would be if this were a first time, or if the Pope did express his views as you said....but with him, it's just callous disrespect/unbelief. As an aside, Pope Francis is having a book published....actually it's an interview condenensed into a 435 pg. book. In it (brace yourself), he allows for gay "civil unions"...but doesn't want to call it marriage. Which is B.S. because gays can have civil unions/marriages with no connection to any religious ceremony and it is recognized as a marriage. He's equivocating,skirting the issue rather than just condemning any/all civil unions/marriages of gays like previous Popes did. I have no respect for Pope Francis/Bergoglio for what he says and does. If you read Fr. Zuhlsdorf's blog (he's a rather self-serving opportunist but his blog is usually accurate), there's going to be another earthquake of a decree from the Vatican this week...and it's not good for the Faith. Maybe he's wrong, but watch for it anyway. Damian Malliapalli
I'm getting close to 80 and the more I study the more I come to understand that it is impossible for God to permit evil to emanate from His church! The sedevacantist argument based upon solid doctrine is irrefutable! Before you condemn their position, study it and know your supposed enemy !!!
I hear you all, and was just raising the Eastern thing as a possibility. I do see where some Easterners seem rather happy with him. Of course if he thought the Latin church had got some things wrong that the Eastern's got right he would not come out and say so as that would erode the teaching authority such as it may still be. Who knows?
:) Cheers for Susan with that swipe at Peter/feybriel/Gaybriel, etc.
Sciatica is not a life threatening, or even serious, issue. Painful,yes. Serious, usually not. My uncle has sciatica and still plays golf! But then again he's 10 years younger than Bergoglio, so maybe at that age he won't be able to kneel either. On the other hand, all liberal Catholics who still cheer Pope Francis and think he;'s great and make excuses for him have calcification of the cerebral cortex, or dementia. Damian Malliapalli
Have you considered that the Sciatica suffered by the Pope might affect some of his motor functions differently from your uncle? Why should you make this whole thing into some kind of ideological issue pitting Catholics against one another and calling into question the Pope's faith and devotion to Christ?
because he's perfectly capable of kneeling, he's displayed that multiple times....he just doesn't want to do it for God (not even as a younger man with no sciatica). And as far as calling his faith into question, his own actions have done that quite well.....
*Souls that are not saved are annihilated. *The Blessed Mother wanted to yell at God the Father at the base of the cross, "Lies! Lies! I was lied to!" *The koran is a source of truth and strength. *That islam is a religion of peace. *That atheists can get to Heaven by doing good. *That evangelizing is a sin against 'ecumenism'. *That the Jews don't need Jesus to be saved and we shouldn't try to convert them. *That divorced/remarrieds without annulments can receive Holy Communion (as he told the Argentine bishops, "there is no other interpretation.") *That people can change their sex (referring to the 'transgender' he invited for a private audience with 'spouse' in tow, "he, who was a she, but is now a he...") *That, "Man is the king of the universe!" *That youth unemployment is the greatest problem facing modern man. *That not recycling is a mortal sin. *That Jesus needed to plead forgiveness of Mary and Joseph. *That the real miracle of the loaves and fishes was sharing "rather than a multiplication". *That a notorious and unrepentant woman personally guilty of murdering over 10,000 babies in the womb is a "forgotten GREAT!" *That Christ on the hammer and sickle of marxism is an acceptable thing for a pope to smilingly accept and to wear on his person. *That not genuflecting or kneeling before the Blessed Sacrament in the Holy Mass or public Exposition is okey-dokey....even when he's shown he can repeatedly kneel before women, trannies, and muslims at the Mandatum. *That a tango in the sanctuary, inches from the altar, is okey-dokey. *That Jesus "made Himself the devil!" *That Jesus "likes it" when we say to Him in the confessional, "This is your sin, and I will sin again!" *That martin luther wasn't wrong. *That if everyone did what they thought was good ("as they conceive it"), the world would be much better....(bet ISIS thinks they're doing 'good', ah? eh? no?) *That Catholics shouldn't "obsess" on 'gay marriage', contraception, and abortion....(as if!) *That the persecution, torment, and annihilation of the FFI was justified. *That Jesus Did Not Tell the Pharisees that Divorce is Forbidden. *That Jesus only "pretends to be angry" with the disciples when Scripture clearly says he was angry with them. *That "no one can be condemned forever"...(i.e., there is no hell; see point #1 above). *That "engaging in dialogue does not mean renouncing our own ideas and traditions, but the claim that they alone are valid or absolute."....(guess that pretty much negates the Catholic Church, Her origins, and the promises of Her Founder.) *That the cause of social evil is "inequality".
Yeah, I found it. This new 'Motu Proprio' is reported to be posted on the Vatican Website, but not translated yet into English. The news is now almost everywhere. Went like wildfire. The way I am understanding it, this gives 'regions' and maybe even individual Bishops and even individual Priests(?) the right to translate the Mass from Latin to English or other languages any way they wish. The repercussions would be likely devastating. More and more totally invalid Masses depending on where you are or what kind of leadership you have. It's a Bergoglian 'free for all'.
Looks to me like he's not a believer. He knelt just last year to wash the feet of Muslims again, but he cannot KNEEL for Our Lord? Not only that but he stands IN FRONT of the kneeler, as if it's IN HIS WAY, like he is on 'equal footing' with the Savior of the World!!
Nah,it's all true, strait from Bergoglio's bigmouth time and time again. It's all there in black and white, Just seek and find. And you'll find a lot more than you hoped for, all bad of course. Damian Malliapalli
Read the parables of Jesus and then allow yourself to be shocked then, for a hearty dose of Christian socialism, read Acts 4: 32 - 5: 16, Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum, JP II's Centesimus Annus etc. What difference would that make to you Tancred? None at all. The inconvenient bits become conveniently optional don't they?
The sedevacantist argument twists the words of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church.
Also, you need to distinguish between the *Church* which cannot err and *Churchmen* who CAN err (and that includes PF when he's NOT speaking ex cathedra - which he hasn't so far as I know.
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. [...]" - Our LORD | Matt 6:24 (RSVCE) *** This is very plan to me and I see it as Susan sees it.
Susan, yes those are just but a few to which can be added:
“Inside the Holy Trinity they’re all arguing behind closed doors but on the outside they give the picture of unity.” - https://gloria.tv/article/JEXsoSdmdUkb2jpSMfdx1Fbqh
Doubtful that Bergolio is a valid pope in the light of Pope Benedict's dubious resignation. Both men should clear off altogether and let the church refresh herself with a proper orthodox papacy.
Bergolio only kneels before man because man is his god. He does not kneel before the NOvus Ordo "sacrament" either because he is being defiant or he knows NO sacraments are not valid. I think its the latter.
A ver si alguno se puede enterar: EL MAL ESTÁ EN SU IGLESIA. El demonio ha sido recibido en toda ella y en todo el mundo desde el preciso momento de adorar a los ídolos ante el Sagrario de nuestro Templo Mayor de la Cristiandad.La abominación se ha erigido en exterminadora de la civilización... Los demonios han tomado al mundo en plenitud.Sólo queda aguardar, aguardar contemplando con espanto todo el cumplimiento de las profecías mirando a nuestros pobres hermanos, ciegos y engañados...Esto es todo cuánto ocurre..Lo peor que se podía esperar y que ha llegado con sorpresa...Recen porque no sean hallados réprobos. Lean las SSEE. y no se fien de ninguno que no se ajuste a San Pablo.
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Is there a story that goes with this photo.....looks pretty expected to me, Pope praying at altar.
But I know enough Latin to know that roughly, "Non Serviam" means, "I will not serve."
Was the Pope confronted by good priests who spoke against him this AM...like it was reported in another story here? I hope so.
The big crowds who came out for his arrival were impressive,but not giagantic. I hope for his appearances the crowds are well below expectation.
I also know enough to know that if Francis was/will be confronted by good traditional priests...the secular and most Catholic press will not report it.
Damian Malliapalli
My gosh....that's it in a nutshell, isn't?
the story, Damian, is that he will not kneel before the majesty of the True Presence....even with a prie-dieu conspicuously placed for him to do just that. He. will. not. kneel.
....at least not for God.
so...he either does not believe, OR he believes and stands in defiance (notice--everyone else is kneeling), usually glaring.
“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
funny thing is, bergoglio seems to forget what the following verse says. funny that.
Tancred....heard anything regarding this?
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2017/09/speaking-of-storms-on-the-horizon/
my stomach just made seven turns.
Why won't ANYONE ask him publicly why he won't kneel to the Blessed Sacrament or at Mass? He usually has no hesitation for shooting off at the mouth so maybe he'll say why.
Wow, refuses to kneel.
He does kneel to wash the feet of muslims or to receive a "blessing" from a protestant however. Go figure!
A picture paints a thousand words.
Perfectly capable of kneeling: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/pope-francis-washes-refugees-feet-easter-week-160324173339136.html
-Andrew
Possibly this is another indication that the Holy Father subscribes to Eastern Christian thinking and practice on a number of issues, including eucharistic adoration, as here.
This is from Colombia, but no idea of the context... just something I found in the wild.
Yes, Susan, I saw it a short time ago. Made me shake all over!! Glad you got a link to it.....I tried to go back and it was gone, so I thought it may be in his archives, but when I looked.....not there. JUST PRAY!!! I cannot imagine what may be coming.....don't think I want to go there.
Why doesn't he say that?
Woody:
No disrespect intended, buddy, but that's ridiculous. Complete violation of valid judgement when we've seen Bergoglio time and time again not kneeling to reverence the Blessed Sacrament as everone else does at ceremonieshe officiates at. Remember too, that unlike Benedict XVI and John Paul II, he does not even participate in the Corpus Christi procession, kneeling or sitting(they provide a chair for the Pope), in the carriage/truck/popemobile which carries the Blessed Sacrament solemnly thru Rome to Santa Maria Maggiore. He just blessed everyone with the Monstrance at the end.
He is of the Vatican II generation, when they encouraged people not to kneel, not to show respect for the Mass and Catholic traditions, not to genuflect etc.etc. But that doesn't excuse him. He knws what is expected, and does the opposite. He has no respect for the Blessed Sacrament, or even the Catholic Church. Not kneeling before the Blessed Sacrament in Colombia I am sure will enrage many people, who do still have deep respect for Catholic traditions. So Woody, Buddy Man, your argument isn't valid. It would be if this were a first time, or if the Pope did express his views as you said....but with him, it's just callous disrespect/unbelief.
As an aside, Pope Francis is having a book published....actually it's an interview condenensed into a 435 pg. book. In it (brace yourself), he allows for gay "civil unions"...but doesn't want to call it marriage. Which is B.S. because gays can have civil unions/marriages with no connection to any religious ceremony and it is recognized as a marriage. He's equivocating,skirting the issue rather than just condemning any/all civil unions/marriages of gays like previous Popes did.
I have no respect for Pope Francis/Bergoglio for what he says and does. If you read Fr. Zuhlsdorf's blog (he's a rather self-serving opportunist but his blog is usually accurate), there's going to be another earthquake of a decree from the Vatican this week...and it's not good for the Faith. Maybe he's wrong, but watch for it anyway.
Damian Malliapalli
yeeeaaahhhh....nice try. It's a pretty good bet that the Byzantines don't wash the feet of women, muslims, and trannies at the Mandatum.
And any prelate who actually subscribes to Eastern Catholic thinking and practice "on a number of issues" should be an Eastern Catholic.
you're a kool-aid drinker.
Some people have Sciatica while others have calcification of the cerebral cortex. Pope Francis has the former.
I'm getting close to 80 and the more I study the more I come to understand that it is impossible for God to permit evil to emanate from His church! The sedevacantist argument based upon solid doctrine is irrefutable! Before you condemn their position, study it and know your supposed enemy !!!
I hear you all, and was just raising the Eastern thing as a possibility. I do see where some Easterners seem rather happy with him. Of course if he thought the Latin church had got some things wrong that the Eastern's got right he would not come out and say so as that would erode the teaching authority such as it may still be. Who knows?
I saw that too Damian. Would be very interesting if they release it while he is out of Rome.
TLM...he's updated the post. It's bad.
And feybriel, you have the latter.
He kneels (extensively!) for muslims, women, and trannies at every Mandatum. Guess his 'sciatica' clears up when he want is to.....pretty convenient.
Who's feybriel, Own Goal?
:) Cheers for Susan with that swipe at Peter/feybriel/Gaybriel, etc.
Sciatica is not a life threatening, or even serious, issue. Painful,yes. Serious, usually not. My uncle has sciatica and still plays golf! But then again he's 10 years younger than Bergoglio, so maybe at that age he won't be able to kneel either.
On the other hand, all liberal Catholics who still cheer Pope Francis and think he;'s great and make excuses for him have calcification of the cerebral cortex, or dementia.
Damian Malliapalli
Have you considered that the Sciatica suffered by the Pope might affect some of his motor functions differently from your uncle?
Why should you make this whole thing into some kind of ideological issue pitting Catholics against one another and calling into question the Pope's faith and devotion to Christ?
Boo Hoo for Pope Francis and his sciatica.. I cried for him and his pain for an hr. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Damian Malliapalli
because he's perfectly capable of kneeling, he's displayed that multiple times....he just doesn't want to do it for God (not even as a younger man with no sciatica). And as far as calling his faith into question, his own actions have done that quite well.....
*Souls that are not saved are annihilated.
*The Blessed Mother wanted to yell at God the Father at the base of the cross, "Lies! Lies! I was lied to!"
*The koran is a source of truth and strength.
*That islam is a religion of peace.
*That atheists can get to Heaven by doing good.
*That evangelizing is a sin against 'ecumenism'.
*That the Jews don't need Jesus to be saved and we shouldn't try to convert them.
*That divorced/remarrieds without annulments can receive Holy Communion (as he told the Argentine bishops, "there is no other interpretation.")
*That people can change their sex (referring to the 'transgender' he invited for a private audience with 'spouse' in tow, "he, who was a she, but is now a he...")
*That, "Man is the king of the universe!"
*That youth unemployment is the greatest problem facing modern man.
*That not recycling is a mortal sin.
*That Jesus needed to plead forgiveness of Mary and Joseph.
*That the real miracle of the loaves and fishes was sharing "rather than a multiplication".
*That a notorious and unrepentant woman personally guilty of murdering over 10,000 babies in the womb is a "forgotten GREAT!"
*That Christ on the hammer and sickle of marxism is an acceptable thing for a pope to smilingly accept and to wear on his person.
*That not genuflecting or kneeling before the Blessed Sacrament in the Holy Mass or public Exposition is okey-dokey....even when he's shown he can repeatedly kneel before women, trannies, and muslims at the Mandatum.
*That a tango in the sanctuary, inches from the altar, is okey-dokey.
*That Jesus "made Himself the devil!"
*That Jesus "likes it" when we say to Him in the confessional, "This is your sin, and I will sin again!"
*That martin luther wasn't wrong.
*That if everyone did what they thought was good ("as they conceive it"), the world would be much better....(bet ISIS thinks they're doing 'good', ah? eh? no?)
*That Catholics shouldn't "obsess" on 'gay marriage', contraception, and abortion....(as if!)
*That the persecution, torment, and annihilation of the FFI was justified.
*That Jesus Did Not Tell the Pharisees that Divorce is Forbidden.
*That Jesus only "pretends to be angry" with the disciples when Scripture clearly says he was angry with them.
*That "no one can be condemned forever"...(i.e., there is no hell; see point #1 above).
*That "engaging in dialogue does not mean renouncing our own ideas and traditions, but the claim that they alone are valid or absolute."....(guess that pretty much negates the Catholic Church, Her origins, and the promises of Her Founder.)
*That the cause of social evil is "inequality".
.....to name but a FEW.
Yeah, I found it. This new 'Motu Proprio' is reported to be posted on the Vatican Website, but not translated yet into English. The news is now almost everywhere. Went like wildfire. The way I am understanding it, this gives 'regions' and maybe even individual Bishops and even individual Priests(?) the right to translate the Mass from Latin to English or other languages any way they wish. The repercussions would be likely devastating. More and more totally invalid Masses depending on where you are or what kind of leadership you have. It's a Bergoglian 'free for all'.
Looks to me like he's not a believer. He knelt just last year to wash the feet of Muslims again, but he cannot KNEEL for Our Lord? Not only that but he stands IN FRONT of the kneeler, as if it's IN HIS WAY, like he is on 'equal footing' with the Savior of the World!!
You can find the full English text by Rorate Caeli
What a splendid string of free association and unsupported scrap book gibberish from the Hillbilly speaking Duelling Banjo herself.
Nah,it's all true, strait from Bergoglio's bigmouth time and time again. It's all there in black and white, Just seek and find. And you'll find a lot more than you hoped for, all bad of course.
Damian Malliapalli
Lots of denial from the bog socialist.
Read the parables of Jesus and then allow yourself to be shocked then, for a hearty dose of Christian socialism, read Acts 4: 32 - 5: 16, Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum, JP II's Centesimus Annus etc.
What difference would that make to you Tancred? None at all. The inconvenient bits become conveniently optional don't they?
The sedevacantist argument twists the words of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church.
Also, you need to distinguish between the *Church* which cannot err and *Churchmen* who CAN err (and that includes PF when he's NOT speaking ex cathedra - which he hasn't so far as I know.
Pray to Our Lady. She will help you.
aaaand Peter W/feybriel shows his true colors....all shades of red.
Bog Soviets don't matter in the long run. Nothing but the clattering of cymbals...
Flawed syllogisms and English as a second language are big problems here.
Maybe he knows NO sacraments are invalid.
We're already well aware of your shortcomings "Peter"...but it's good of you to point them out anyway.
Yes it is Susan, plain for those who would see.
Thank you Susan!
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. [...]" - Our LORD | Matt 6:24 (RSVCE)
***
This is very plan to me and I see it as Susan sees it.
Susan, yes those are just but a few to which can be added:
“Inside the Holy Trinity they’re all arguing behind closed doors but on the outside they give the picture of unity.” - https://gloria.tv/article/JEXsoSdmdUkb2jpSMfdx1Fbqh
Doubtful that Bergolio is a valid pope in the light of Pope Benedict's dubious resignation.
Both men should clear off altogether and let the church refresh herself with a proper orthodox papacy.
He should, probably, be having some type of health/body/knee problem!!
Bergolio only kneels before man because man is his god. He does not kneel before the NOvus Ordo "sacrament" either because he is being defiant or he knows NO sacraments are not valid. I think its the latter.
A ver si alguno se puede enterar: EL MAL ESTÁ EN SU IGLESIA. El demonio ha sido recibido en toda ella y en todo el mundo desde el preciso momento de adorar a los ídolos ante el Sagrario de nuestro Templo Mayor de la Cristiandad.La abominación se ha erigido en exterminadora de la civilización... Los demonios han tomado al mundo en plenitud.Sólo queda aguardar, aguardar contemplando con espanto todo el cumplimiento de las profecías mirando a nuestros pobres hermanos, ciegos y engañados...Esto es todo cuánto ocurre..Lo peor que se podía esperar y que ha llegado con sorpresa...Recen porque no sean hallados réprobos. Lean las SSEE. y no se fien de ninguno que no se ajuste a San Pablo.
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