[FSSPX] On July 16, 2017, several clerics and lay scholars addressed a correctio filialis, a filial correction, to Pope Francis. They reveal the seven heresies contained in the Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia.
A website has been created for the occasion: www.correctiofilialis.org; it offers information on the diffusion of the correctio filialis.
This thoroughly documented critique is a sort of sequel to the Dubia on Amoris Laetitia (September 19, 2016) of Cardinals Walter Brandmüller, Raymond L. Burke, Joachim Meisner, and Carlo Caffarra. (The latter two passed away this year, respectively on July 5 and September 6.) They respectfully requested Pope Francis to “clarify” five unorthodox points in Amoris Laetitia.
The Dubia remained unanswered and were later followed by a request for an audiencefrom the four authors (April 25, 2017). Their request was not granted.
On June 29, 2016, 45 theologians submitted to Cardinal Angelo Sodano, dean of the College of Cardinals, another critical studyof 19 points in Amoris Laetitia. This critique also went unanswered.
In the list of the 62 signatories of the correctio filialis are the names of several persons who already signed the critique of the 45 theologians in 2016, but among the new names is that of Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, the only bishop who has signed the document so far, although – as the presentation of the correctio filialis explains – the list remains open.
http://fsspx.news/en/news-events/news/clerical-and-lay-scholars-send-pope-correctio-filialis-about-amoris-laetitia-32163
AMDG
48 comments:
Good news, thanks for the info on bishop Fellay!
SEPTEMBER 24, 2017
Two popes need to correct the objective error in salvation theology which cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit and so is not magisterial
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/the-two-living-popes-need-to-correct.html
Finally! But this is still not the Correction that will be issued by Cardinal Burke and the other Cardinals...and from what I read, additional bishops and prelates issuing the correction on the heretic Pope Francis.
Francis is a heretic. He has been throughout his entire Papacy and probably before. He should be removed.
However, and this is the sign of a truly evil person...Francis will probably just shrug this correction off and not respond to it. Or he'll get his scumbag associates like Parolin and others to spew hateful invectives against these heroic and true Catholic priests and scholars.
That Bishop Fellay signed it is monumental....because he brings the whole of the SSPX in against the heretic Pope. This is no small matter. It is huge! The news will be spread, and now even more good and holy Catholics will have the courage to sign.
Francis and his thugs will probably lash out against these good people, and against the SSPX....as they did with the Franciscans of the Immaculate and others. But then again, that's a sign of pure evil.
This is the biggest scandal to attack Francis. It is historic! And Cardinal Burke's correction hasn;'t even come yet!!! Can you imagine a Pope being accused of being a heretic!! Not for 700 years.
Pack your bags Francis and company. This is just going to grow. Your time is running out!!
Damian Malliapalli
Hopefully, but I believe that it will take a divine intervention as foretold in the Third Secret.
Many people take the Third Secret of Fatima and it's imaery literally. I am not doubting it for a second, but I think that the part that speaks of a Pope being killed, and in Rome hundreds of priests and religious laying dead is symbolic....the imagry of a great spiritual battle where a Pope is persecuted, reviled, and "killed", and many thousands of others are bloddies and bruised. I think it's a symbolic reference to the battles in the Church, by the Faithful Catholics against the heretics, and of a Pope who is reviled, mocked, scorned and "killed/removed" by his own people.
I think it speaks of Benedict XVI, who despite claims to the contrary, was forced to flee from office by the scandals and pressure of radical liberals who even threatened him with physical harm. I think the mountains of the dead are the bloodies bodies of the Faithful Catholics, who have fought against the evil come from Vatican II and its misinterpretations from the beginning.
But the Third Secret says tha in the end, the Blessed Virgin Mary's Immaculate Heart will triumph. I think with this document, and another soon to come form Cardinal Burke and other prelates, this triumph is just beginning. There will be more battles to fight, but the tide is turning.
Damian Malliapalli
The post-conciliar popes Paul VI and John Paul II were respectively the aim of two "Liber Accusationis" issued by the late Abbé Georges de Nantes.
The good Abbé expected at least a reply and possibly a trial where he could expose the theological grievances he addressed against thes two popes in these two libels. He got nothing but silence from the Vatican and a suspension by his bishop.
Here is how the fraternal correction of Pope Francis will end : In the dustbin.
Let's imagine what would have happened if the SSPX had already fallen in the trap open by Francis to make them coming back in the pope's personal prelature.
Mgr Fellay signing the Fraternal Correction! What a slap in his face!
I am afraid that the trials and persecutions the RC Church will have to undergo within few will be not only spiritual but also physical.
Agreed.
No, no...you're wrong. de Nantes was 1 man. He was well known among his circle, but little else. He was very obscure in the scheme of things in the Church at the time.
This time, we have over 60+ very important Catholic writers and scholars...and the list is growing. We now have Bishops signing (Gracida in the USA for one), and Bishop Fellay (which means the entire SSPX). Not to mention that Cardinal Burke's Correction (that he is issuing shortly), will carry even more weight.
I signed the petition, and when I did, there were barely 200. Now there's close to 1,000 and it's barely 2 hrs ago.
The Vatican has been contacted by hundreds of media (CNN, the Guardian newspaper(British), the NYT, and others)....and they have no comment.
That is a cowardly way of admitting that they are trapped...they know it...and they're scrambling for a response.
It'll probably be some condescending, inflammatory, insulting , dismissive comment when it comes. But then again, that too the the mark of a coward who has no other answer and knows they are trapped. Francis can't weather this one without being more beat up than he was when it smashed his face in the "popemobile" in Colombia and sported a black eye.
This thing is huge, and going to spread, and Cardinal Burke and the others have not even entered the fray yet.
Francis has no answer for all this, which is why he will probably respond with some evil tactic like disciplinary action ,etc.
But that will backfire on him even bigger that this current crisis for him.
Any vindictive action taken by Francis/the Vatican now will blow up right in his face.
Good Riddance!
Damian Malliapalli
Damian.Sound analysis.Bergoglio is stuck in the slime he made for himself.May God help us to correct The Church and send Bergoglio to his demise.
Make no mistake, the KNIVES will come out and are ALREADY coming out. From what I understand, the Jesuits are now 'gathering names and information' about the signatories. Pray for them!! We must pray and sacrifice, pray your Rosaries!! We are in the middle of a fierce spiritual WAR, and I don't think I'm exaggerating the situation. The important thing that people must remember, it's not the 'success' or 'failure' of the action taken to defend Christ....it's all in the DEFENDING no matter the outcome. Doesn't matter if this correction falls on its face, it was a valiant effort to defend the Church of Christ. THAT'S how God looks at this.
It won't fail. Any B.S. Francis tries to pull, like the Jesuits gathering up names and info., is going to backfire badly. Any negative, vindictive, inflammatory or disciplinary action or censure by Francis/the Vatican will be interpreted by faithfulll Catholics, and indeed the world, as the mark of the coward and the guilty.
If Francis doesn't decide to comfort to traditional Catholic teaching, but instead sends his henchmen to remove priests, professors, clerics etc. from office, hunt down the faithful, etc., if they exert all that effort to punish the faithful and to uphold heresy that is in Amoris and other words and actions of Francis then we know that Francis, and his Vatican are of the devil....not of Jesus Christ.
This might take awhile....not too long, because St.Francis of Assisi predicted that the reign of the false Pope would be short....but in the end, Francis will be gone and a new traditional-leaning, "youngish", true hardline orthodox Pope will be cleaning out the filth Francis and his people left behind when they fled.
Damian Malliapalli
Though I don's sign on-line petitions anymore (too many; too much), I made a JOYFUL EXCEPTION for this one....PLEASE consider signing it...we need LARGE numbers....there has got to be a definitive statement from the flock....(it's quadrupled since this morning).....
https://www.change.org/p/pope-francis-support-by-the-catholic-laity-for-the-filial-correction-of-pope-francis
john collins....you're full of something MUCH more fragrant than beans.
Damian, love your posts but you're way off on that one, we have several prophecies that say the clergy will be killed and especially in Rome. The prophecies are pretty well covered in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az4dzdS79jU
You are not the interpreter of the mind or intentions of the Holy Spirit, Lionel.
You just know enough about exotic exclusionary ideology, masquerading as theology, to tie you in the knots of your own syllogism.
Thanks for the update on Divine Revelation by youtube. Mind expanding stuff.
That black eye doesn't look like a fall in a popemobile. Looks like the result of a fist to the face.
Private revelation, by saints of the Church. Like Ripley's: Believe it, or, don't.
"They, therefore, walk in the path of dangerous error who believe that they can accept Christ as the Head of the Church, while not adhering loyally to His Vicar on earth. They have taken away the visible head, broken the visible bonds of unity and left the Mystical Body of the Redeemer so obscured and so maimed, that those who are seeking the haven of eternal salvation can neither see it nor find it." —Pope Pius XII, Mysticai Corporis Christi (On the Mystical Body of Christ), papal encyclical promulgated on June 29, 1943. In this eloquent encyclical, Pius XII emphasizes the importance of all Catholics adhering with loyalty to the Pope -- the Vicar of Christ
"Christ did not wish to exclude sinners from His Church; hence if some of her members are suffering from spiritual maladies, that is no reason why we should lessen our love for the Church, but rather a reason why we should increase our devotion to her members... It cannot be laid to her charge if some members fall, weak or wounded. In their name she prays to God daily: 'Forgive us our trespasses'; and with the brave heart of a mother she applies herself at once to the work of nursing them back to spiritual health. When therefore we call the Body of Jesus Christ 'mystical,' the very meaning of the word conveys a solemn warning. It is a warning that echoes in these words of St. Leo: 'Recognize, O Christian, your dignity, and being made a sharer of the divine nature, go not back to your former worthlessness along the way of unseemly conduct. Keep in mind of what Head and of what Body you are a member.'" —Ibid.
One persons poisson is another's poison. Enjoy the exotica.
I'm sure these Church approved private revelations do taste like poison to those that are on the business end of them. And also as Saint Thomas Aquinas reminds us about the purpose of private revelation: "not for the purpose of revealing new doctrine but to guide the affairs of men."
But Jack R says the approved private revelations from saints of the Church are poison. You'll forgive me if I take Saint Thomas's guidance over yours.
What?!? Another dim-witted ultramontanist?
What?!? Another dim-witted ultramontanist?
Anon.....for God's sake, don't engage it and don't feed it. Just let it spew it's sulfur; Tancred will mop it up.
Joseph R
Zero cases of something are not exceptions to the dogma EENS says the American apologist John Martignoni who is the Director of the Office of the New Evangelization and Stewardship in the diocese of Birminghamd in Alabama, USA and has a program on EWTN.
The two popes need to say the same thing and the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes.
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Fr.Stefano Visintin osb, Rector of the Pontifical University of St. Anselm, Rome agrees with John Martignoni.He says BOD, BOB and I.I are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
The two popes need to say the same thing and then Vatican Council II will be in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Council will be Feeneyite.
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The American prelate, Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson whom Pope Francis appointed Nuncio to Switzerland and Liechtenstein has the same message.
The popes need to announce that the Catholic Church cannot contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction by suggesting that invisible people for us, now in Heaven, allegedly saved with the BOD, BOB and I.I outside the Church, are visible exceptions on earth to the dogma EENS.People who are invisible and unknown are really visible and known exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation is now what is wrongly being taught by the Vatican,with the approval of the two popes.
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Numerous priests in Rome, who offer Mass in Italian also say that there are no known exceptions in the present times to Feeneyite EENS.
Cardinals and bishops need to correct Pope Benedict XVI's error which he made last year.He said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century since there was a development with Vatican Council II (Avvenire).Without the irrational premise and false conclusion Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.This needs to be clarified by the cardinals and bishops in the Catholic Church.
The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and teach invisible people now in Heaven are visible exceptions on to the dogma EENS.-Lionel
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You gotta be kidding Buddy, that good and faithful Catholics, traditionalists as well as just piain good Catholics in the pews, would accept the B.S. and slime, the departure from Catholic teaching and tradition coming from Francis and his Vatican...not to mention the praise for Luther and other heretics, the gay orgies in the Vatican, the openly gay priests Francis appointments, etc.
Pius XII wrote those wods, anticipating the Catholic Church continuing with Popes very much like himself, faithful men to Christ and the Church....not openly pro-gay heretics like Francis and company. Pius XII's beautiful words don't apply to filth like that. You have eyes in your head and see what the Church has become since Francis. You can reason and think (I hope).
So use your eyes and mind and grow up.
Pius XII was a great Pope and expected the Church to continue as always. Even he, would not accept "Amoris", or the teachings of Francis and his agenda.
Damian Malliapalli
Bonus points for remembering the great Abbe de Nantes.
Catholics in the United States have been conditioned against Catholicism for at least 200 years, since their Americanist bishops have been steadily warning them that adherence to it and its subsequent prominence in society, will result in the want and poverty they left behind in Europe.
His ultramontanism depends on what the editorial board at America thinks of the pope's concern for Social Justice issues.
"...Cardinal Burke and the others have not even entered the fray yet."
aaaaand THERE is the crux of the problem. Let's pray they do soon, or they will be even more accountable than the jackals who've exposed themselves as such.
CMJ notes that not only Fellay signed but that other SSPX district superior who's in trouble for his school sex ed program signed. Seriously, why didn't the other two SSPX bishops and all the superiors and clergy sign? Do these 2 just need some damage control on google search?
http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/
You are not the interpreter of the mind or intentions of the Holy Spirit, Lionel.
You just know enough about exotic exclusionary ideology, masquerading as theology, to tie you in the knots of your own syllogism. What should trouble even more than this is that Tancred has put up a Stalinist tiype barrage around you while censoring out anyone who would offer criticism of your views.
And your censorship policy comes straight out of the doctrinal purity manuals of the Stalinist Russian and the Kim regime in Nth Korea.
Take the log out Tancred
Because BIshop Fellay is the Superior General of the SSPX, and as such, by signing it he signed for all. I am sure none of the SSPX thinks that Francis isn't a heretic.
If Francis isn't a heretic, then Hilary Clinton is going to be voted the most popular women in America.
Damian Malliapalli
Notice how no one so far, is/are loudly coming to the defense of Francis? CNN reports that the Vatican isn't responding to it.....but some of Francis' Jesuit fans and some others have gotten into name calling and hurling insults.
I half-way expect EWTN to start a "Holy Hour of Reparation and Prayer in Support of Our Beloved Holy Father, Francis". YUCK.
They did for JP II once or twice when good Catholics attacked him for his Assisi gatherings. But I hope they don't do anything in support of Bergoglio.
From what I read, this story is spreading across the world so fast, and gathering strength all the time.
The Vatican has apparently said nothing.....a real sign of caos in there,,,and also a sign of shame, embarrassment, and guilt. Good Riddance.
Damian Malliapalli
"The number of Catholic marriages taking place in the United States has declined by almost two-thirds (64 percent) since 1969, even as the number of Catholics in the U.S. has grown significantly. In 2013, 154,450 Catholic marriages were celebrated in the U.S., compared with 426,309 in 1969."
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/decline-catholic-marriages
"The most recent numbers available from the Annuarium Statisticum Ecclesiae, which compiles statistics about the Catholic Church and its members, show that 24,010 cases, or 49 percent of annulment cases, were petitioned from the United States in 2012. Poland, the country with the next highest number of petitions, accounted for 6 percent with fewer than 3,000 cases. But the U.S. figure is down sharply from the 72,308 cases introduced in the United States in 1990, as are figures for requests worldwide."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/15/annulments-plummet-among-us-catholics-amid-fewer-m/
Two years ago all were chewing your cud about ease of annulment rules.
https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2015/09/23/scrap-the-new-annulment-rules/
Does anyone know how many annulments have been issued since francis eased the rules in 2015 for the year of mercy? Let's say francis stands corrected and eliminates his footnote, do you think Mo Rocca will stop getting communion? What about Andy Cuomo and Rudy Giulianni? What about francis' sister & nephew? You all are in vast danger of becoming (if not already) nothing but hypocritical pharisees. You obsess about 'de jure' while ignoring 'de facto' communion for adulterers which has been going on since the 1980s (Ted Kennedy).
Indeed since the VC2 revision of the annulment rules--when 85 to 90 percent if not more were receiving annulments under the old rules what is the difference if now 99% receive annulments w/out a whole lot of pretense (downward spiral like the protestants)? MORE adulterers will receive communion?
For over 50 years public sinners: adulterers, pro-aborts, contraceptors, sterilized, sodomites and fornicators (how many 'catholic' white immodest ball gown weddings have you attended where everyone didn't know the couple was living in sin together, using artificial contraception, and had had multiple sexual relationships before that? I'm talking back to the 80s--and to the 50s, 60s and 70s for the couples having sex w/each other before marriage) and no-one cares. Just like the Daladein videos--who is really shocked? No-one. It's just another fundraising opportunity.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/09/09/relatively-few-u-s-catholics-skipped-annulment-because-of-cost-or-complications/
You can sign your petitions and wait for formal corrections, but I don't think that's really what God is asking of us at this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4S7jafRlJ0
YO! Let's have some charity here. Please be a gentleman and apologize to Tancred. Remember: Nomen est omen.
Margaret
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De facto is bad; de jure is way worse as it's an official green light.
Michael Ortiz.....GOLD STAR!
"De facto is bad; de jure is way worse as it's an official green light."
Sorry, but pope francis and all his supporters insist that doctrine hasn't changed. However, if you don't object to the practice (i.e. sin and sacrilege), how can you object to the legalization of divorce, fornication, sodomy, marijuana, etc. etc. etc.?
God's law can't be changed. But in terms of man's law, De Facto is way better than De Jure, because (man's) law follows practice not the reverse.
Of course I'm not applauding myself, or saying "I told you so", but I think less than 2 weeks ago, I wrote here that there was going to be a huge, truly huge, scandal/issue of a negative nature involving Pope Francis, his associates, and his Vatican. Now we have it. I was just throwing my feelings out there for everyone to read here....not knowing that something as big as this was coming.
Of course, many of the media tried to downplay it, and that worthless "catholic" TV cable network, EWTN , did not even mention it....nothing. But some media are actually reporting the truth....that this is an earthquake in the Vatican, a tremendous disaster from the papacy of Francis. This, coupled with the revelation that a renowned accountant who was doing an audit in the Vatican was pushed out because he found the corruption of Francis' Vatican, is huge. Many newspapers are saying that the Papacy of Francis is severely crippled. Some newspapers , like THE GUARDIAN in Britian, and questioning whether Francis is even a Catholic!!
Now on top of everything, Francis is launching a two year effort to put the plight of migrants/immigrants( read that as his beloved MUSLIMS), front and center in the concerns of the Vatican and the Church....to an enormous chorus of boos from many clerical circles, and open hostility from the faithful. What has this to do with the Catholic Faith? Nothing. This initiative of Francis is going nowhere....and will generate even more ill will towards him in Europe, especially Italy which has sufferd from surges of these Muslim immigrants who are destructive and disruptive to Italian culture and society. They are widely hated by the Italian people.
So, I'm surprised my prediction of a few weeks ago came true. I was only speculating. I'd like to think another prediction of mine will come true too....that with the Correction coming out from the Cardinals who submitted the Dubia-which Francis never answered- and which carries much more weight , and will be another body blow to Francis papacy, I think that he will turn coward like Benedict XVI did and resign and run. We lost a good man and good pope in Benedict XVI. We will loose garbage when we loose Francis....which of course, is no loss at all.
One final thought....with all this scandal about Francis (not including the many gay scandals in the Vatican etc. under his watch), I do not think in the next conclave will will get anyone even remotely called liberal.....I think we will get a John Paul II/Benedict XVI and manye even a Pius XII type new Pope who will finally clean house. He will be young enough to do it.
Damian Malliapalli
With prayers that Damian is right.
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