A former Polish intelligence staff officer reported to Italian online magazine on espionage activity in the Vatican in the 1970s and 1980s
Rome (kath.net/KAP) In the 1970s and 1980s, a number of spies, according to a former Polish secret service staff officer, were present in the Vatican, allegedly also a collaborator of today's pope. According to the Italian online magazine "Faro di Roma" (Thursday), ex-agent Tomasz Turowski said that in the Church's center there were informants from China, the USA, as well as other Eastern bloc states.
A professor known under the name of "Russian" had been involved in the secret negotiations of the Holy See with the Soviet Union as a translator, and as early as November 1981, Turowski had reported that the Vatican had been aware of an imminent imposition of martial law in Poland; This took place on the 13th of December. Turowski said in the interview that he could not give up the name of the clergyman because he had worked for Pope Francis until recently.
The 68-year-old Turowski himself, at the end of the 1970s, was tapped as a theologian and Novice into the Roman religious center of the Jesuits, allegedly with a letter of recommendation from the archbishop, Karol Wojtyla. In his own words, his task was to spy on the Jesuit military chaplains in NATO. In addition, after Wojtyla's election as Pope John Paul II, he also had the commission to protect him from attacks.
"The Communist Party secretaries knew that if that were to happen to the Pope, they would be the first suspects," Turowski said. In order to draw the attention of the Vatican to security risks, he had used table discussions in the presence of radio director, Roberto Tucci, as a collaborator at Radio Vatican, where he dropped incidental information; Tucci was at the same time responsible for the organization of papers and therefore sensitive to security issues.
Turowski was removed as an agent from the Vatican in 1984 before his planned priestly ordination. After the end of the Communist regime, he joined the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993. Later he served as a Polish Ambassador in Russia and Cuba.
Copyright 2016 Catholic Press Agency KATHPRESS, Vienna, Austria
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
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36 comments:
cf. AA-1025: Memoirs of the Communist Infiltration Into the Church by Marie Carré
My Polish sources tell me Turowski is NOT CREDIBLE.
Watch out for the disinformatin... would be my word to the wise...
The JPII angle checks out.
It would be great if somewhere, some good, faithful Catholic or group of Catholics could dig up some really terrible, condemnable story about Pope Francis from his past.....something like he was an open Marxist, or that he defied and encouraged others to defy Church teachings, or that he hid and covered up multiple episodes of pedophile priests while he was a Bishop and Cardinal. It would be a great blessing to the Church if something like that were revealed....something with irrefutable evidence of such gravity that Francis (and by extension...his supporters) would have to resign en masse. Then the good Cardinals would win the day by electing a man who is both a Catholic, open to tradition, and someone to cancel and discard all the initiatives of Francis and his thugs. I bet there is a story like that. It just takes the courage of people to stand up and reveal it. People with courage like the 4 Cardinals who have tried to expose Francis for what he is.
Damian Malliapalli
The title is worth expanding upon: Anti-Apostle 1025, as in infiltrator #1,025 in sequence. Although provenance would be tough to verify, the story viewed from our present-time vantage point is very revealing.
Wouldn't it be easier if some good, faithful Catholic or group of Catholics just concocted a story out of thin air? Which is kind of what this is...
Insiders say it took JPII ten years to smoke out the Commies only to be replaced by the Yahudis. Oy Vey.
My croatian sources tell me russian spies are NEVER CREDIBLE.
Watch out non the less...
Please elaborate. What pattern of disinformation is in operation here? Also, what sort of long range policy goals would be supported by the disinformation pattern which you have identified?
Perhaps Plot Against the Church (1962) by Maurice Pinay, which was distributed to all the Vatican II fathers, would hold more credibility for you. Maurice Pinay is a pseudonym for a group of people, thought to have been lead by the Mexican Fr. Joaquín Sáenz y Arriaga, S.J., who led the traditional Catholic movement in Mexico.
@Damian Malliapalli: Your "really terrible, condemnable story" about what might have happened "from his past" is already happening right now, and it is very manifest.
Did you ever notice how JP2 freely moved about in the Communist nations pre-1990 while simultaneously other catholic clergy and laymen were persecuted in the same communist nations?
That should be a glaring example of his "virtue"
What are Yahudis? I know what the Yazidis are, but never heard of the Yahudis :)
Damian Malliapalli
ReallY? What is it? Is it like the story that broke today about the Pope using filthy, disgusting language and descriptives to characterize gossip-mongering people in the media? I won't write what he said, because it makes me physically sick that there are people he described who actually do that kind of thing. Anyone who does what Francis described should be locked up for good.
But the Pope was gross and disgusting to even mention such a thing, and there's a mounting outrage/scandal that the so called "Vicar of Christ", "Successor of Saint Peter" etc. etc. should use such language and descriptive elements. There's even calls in newspapers in Britain for him to resign.
The only good thing he's done this week, is to forbid in a new document gays from entering seminaries or the priesthood. Of course the media and dissidents and LGBT people are outraged and shocked (boo hoo....grow up). But of course those stronger, more hard line seminary directives will be ignored.
Damian Malliapalli
Uh, no.
Turowski is promoted by liberals and left wing catholics in Poland. Like evil, he says half the truth to convince to big lie. Better not to engage in a "dialogue" with him as Eve did in Paradise. After the fall of communism Turowski did not show any sign of repentance and penance. More, he considers himself as hero who defended pope. Why anybody consider him credible?
Before 1990 JP2 freely did not move about in the communist nations. He visted only one communist country - Poland.
Mehmet Ali Agca stated that he had help inside the Vatican when he shot the pope. It is looking more and more like he knew about what he was talking. There also now appears to be very little doubt of a secret rapprochement with the Soviet Union by the Vatican under John XXIII. This is all about the forming of a world socialist government and one world religion with the Jesuit Pope being right in the middle. With the election of the Donald, this is temporarily on hold. Plans are already in progress among the far left to turn this chain-of-events on its ear. It is all about the Bolsheviks and disdain for Jesus Christ. That is why JPII was shot and why the gay underground hated him so much. Gays reject a moral foundation for society. That is why "who am I to judge" is such a slap in the face to the Catholic moral right.
"Yehudi/Yehudim" is the Hebrew word for Jews, although I think the writer intended to use the term disrespectfully.
I believe Yahudis are Yazidis let in to the US under the Obama regime and who have since become assimilated in the mid-western states. Many are also proficient violin players.
The left is already trying to do all it can to sabotage the election of President-elect Trump....coming up with lies (supposedly by the CIA) that Russia hacked into the Presidential election process in November and did their best to help Trump and thwart Clinton. Of course, this is a last ditch effort to stop Trump (Clinton forces are probably behind it all).
Pope Francis IS the Hillary Clinton of the Catholic Church. He stands for and represents everything she did. That is why the gays in the Church are now so shocked and outraged over the new directives signed by Francis forbidding gays from entering seminaries or the priesthood. They are whining and crying like all the Hillary fans who wept so much on election night when she lost. The gays thought he was their champion...their protector.
Even though he signed that documents...deep down I think he is their champion.....and everyone else who thinks, and believes like him and Hillary.
Damian Malliapalli
Wrong when he was archbishop he was an iron curtain jet setter.
Americans are so far behind on terms for (((the tribe)))
I read that book years ago. My advice to anyone who reads it: Go to Confession, Holy Communion, pray the Rosary and then on Sunday afternoon sit down and read it. DON'T read it at night - it's that terrifying.
Try reading The Rhine Flows Into the Tiber by Fr. Wiltgen. Really good stuff.
Wow! I'm glad you're not judging me on the last day!!
Yves Congar's "My Journal of the Council" is plodding and hard to keep following, but its vast catalogue of people and events often pays off. There, Congar mentions his very warm greetings and meetings with the two Russian Orthodox prelate who were invitees to the Council and esteemed ecumenical dignitaries --- two felliws who we now know from defectors like Oleg Penkovsky and the Venona diaries and other sources, were pure KGB agents.
The KGB and its successor world communist fronts have long strangled the Vatican.
Trump cabinet picks have a proven history of doing Israel's dirty work and enjoying it.
I have a fear Trump will become just another Zionist puppet Republican.
Do not think for one moment that war with Iran will be anything other than a disaster waiting to happen.
In a sane world the US would pull put of Asia Minor and & allow the Arabs to solve their own problems.
Look into how much power & control AIPAC hold.
Mgr Montini, the future Pope Paul VI was employed for years to the Vatican Secretary of State. The reigning Pope Pius XII had to hire a former french secret agent, Col. Arnould (who worked for the british IS in France during WWII) for special missions that the official Vatican's diplomats couldn't do.
Arnould was in close contact with a lutherian bishop of Upssala in Sweden who once said him that his sources beyond the Iron Curtain knew that there was a mole for the soviets in the Vatican. Arnould was amazed and asked some proofs of this. The bishop some times later confided him an envelope to be given in Pius XII's hands and no other's. When the Pope opened it he became livid.
Some weeks later the Pope fired Montini from the Secretary of State as archbp of Milan because he didn't want to cause a scandal and he never bestowed him the cardinal's hat because he didn't want to make him a papabile. Sadly, the pope John XXIII decided otherwise only a few weeks after he was elected.
It is known for sure now that tens of priests who were sent by the Church beyond the Iron Curtain were immediately arrested, tortured and executed.
A close collaborator of Montini, a jesuit priest Alighiero Tondi, was fired too who was the probable mole in direct contact with the soviets, but not unknowingly of Montini.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alighiero_Tondi
This same Tondi defrocked, married a communist italian woman, but was later employed again in the Vatican once Montini became Paul VI (!!!!!).
I don't personally understand why people smeer the Jewish people with slanderous comments and anti-Semitic insults like Yehudi, etc. I've heard a lot worse. Our neighborhood where I live is 60% Jewish, and we've never had finer neighbors.
I am part Indian, and part Irish. Although my Dad's family is very light-skinned , and in India we are from the highest "caste" and are wealthy....and traced our family back to what used to be called Persia (Iran), we have been slurred in our travels in the USA...particularly in the South being labeled as Muslims (not my Mom, of course who is 100% Irish-American. Even though right after college 8 years ago I worked full time as a model in NYC, and got a huge amount of work and made a ton in 7 years- I was often assigned to portray, or be presented in the photo shoots in a Middle-Eastern setting, or as an Arab/Muslim because I am light. I quit 18 months ago because of that, and the general environment of it all which is dominated in large measure(not totally), by the LGBT's, and also a lot of drugs and parties etc. which if given into have a very corrupting influence.
But I have been slandered as a Muslim, and it's horrible to be judged as one. Therefore, I suppose I am one of the first to come to the defense of Jewish people, because like me, they are slandered or labeled unjustly. People can't see the person. All they see is the "Jew".
It may sound predjudiced, but Muslims deserve this attitude, Jewish people do not. They are among the best people I know, and it's unfair to label them.
Damian Malliapalli
Personally,I think there is a lot damning information from the 1950's and 1960's that we will never have access to or know about.
Is plot against the church worth reading?
Anon 10:52 I agree with you and worried Trump will become just another Zionist puppet Republican
Damian..Jorge Bergoglio was elevated to "Bishop" by JP2.
Will you please realize Jorge is just one of many.Replacing him will solve nothing as most in the Vatican are just like him.
Dominus Vobiscum Merry Christmas
Speaking of John 23rd,why did he suppress the absolution prayers and confiteor before holy communion? Those prayers,along with the Asperges Me (which was rarely performed cicra 1960-1965) absolve the congregation of venial sins.
Shouldn't we be clean & pure before holy communion?
Haven't been able to locate a source citing why these prayers were suppressed.
Doesn't lead you to think that Tondi was NOT a Russian mole in the Vatican, but a Vatican mole in the Communist countries. I knew Tondi quite well as he was my neighbor in East Berlin and we had long conversations on politics and Theology, over the lasagna that Carmen, his wife, cooked. I always suspected that he spied for the Vatican in Ulbricht's government.
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