7/9/16
A group of Catholic academics and pastors has submitted an appeal to Cardinal Angelo Sodano, Dean of the College of Cardinals in Rome, requesting that the Cardinals and Eastern Catholic Patriarchs petition His Holiness, Pope Francis, to repudiate a list of erroneous propositions that can be drawn from a natural reading of the post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris laetitia. During the coming
weeks this submission will be sent in various languages to every one of the Cardinals and Patriarchs, of whom there are 218 living at present.
Describing the exhortation as containing “a number of statements that can be understood in a sense that is contrary to Catholic faith and morals,” the signatories submitted, along with their appeal, a
documented list of applicable theological censures specifying “the nature and degree of the errors that could be attributed to Amoris laetitia.”
Among the 45 signatories are Catholic prelates, scholars, professors, authors, and clergy from various pontifical universities, seminaries, colleges, theological institutes, religious orders, and dioceses around the world. They have asked the College of Cardinals, in their capacity as the Pope's official advisers, to approach the Holy Father with a request that he repudiate “the errors listed in the document in a definitive and final manner, and to authoritatively state that Amoris laetitia does not require any of them to be believed or considered as possibly true.”
“We are not accusing the pope of heresy,” said a spokesman for the authors, “but we consider that numerous propositions in Amoris laetitia can be construed as heretical upon a natural reading of the text. Additional statements would fall under other established theological censures, such as scandalous, erroneous in faith, and ambiguous, among others.”
The 1983 Code of Canon Law states that “According to the knowledge, competence, and expertise which they possess, they [the Christian faithful] have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful” (CIC, can. 212 §3).
The thirteen-page document quotes nineteen passages in the exhortation which seem to conflict with Catholic doctrines. These doctrines include the real possibility with the grace of God of obeying all the commandments, the fact that certain kinds of act are wrong in all circumstances, the headship of the husband, the superiority of consecrated virginity over the married life, and the legitimacy of capital punishment under certain circumstances. The document also argues that the exhortation undermines the Church's teaching that divorced and civilly remarried Catholics who have made no commitment to continence cannot be admitted to the sacraments while they remain
in that state.
The spokesman said, “It is our hope that by seeking from our Holy Father a definitive repudiation of these errors we can help to allay the confusion already brought about by Amoris laetitia among pastors and the lay faithful. For that confusion can be dispelled effectively only by an unambiguous affirmation of authentic Catholic teaching by the Successor of Peter.”
Dr Joseph Shaw, an Oxford academic and a signatory to the appeal, is acting as spokesman for this group of Catholic scholars and pastors. The group has set up the email address.
Dr Shaw’s personal details can at the following link.
.http://casuistrycentral.blogspot.co.uk/p/about-me.html
His role as signatory and spokesman for the group is as a private person, concerned Catholic, and philosopher, and should not be construed as representative of the institutions for which he serves in
an official capacity.
.http://casuistrycentral.blogspot.co.uk/p/about-me.html
His role as signatory and spokesman for the group is as a private person, concerned Catholic, and philosopher, and should not be construed as representative of the institutions for which he serves in
an official capacity.
30 comments:
These scholars and pastors and priests are heroes, their courage is remarkable and outstanding. I am sure God is pleased with them....more so than cowards who say nothing (most of the College of Cardinals etc.). But to had this appeal to Sodano (LOL) is really naïve. He's one of the worst, most corrupt cardinals in the Church....one of the main men who tried to sabotage and thwart everthing Pope Benedict XVI tried to do.
Spdano probably favors and totally supports Francis, and all the heresy that is in the Apostolic Exortation. Sodano would probably receive the appeal with a polite smile (with knives behind his back), and throw it in the trash once the presenters are gone.
The only good thing, in this corrupt era in the Church, is that the chief architect of the corruption, Francis, is nearly 80. He's bound to start failing soon. And after that, it will be the end of the Bergoglio era. After which hopefully we will have a true Pope much like Benedict XVI or even Pius XII who will clean out the garbage (people and agenda) from the Bergoglian reign.
Damian Malliapalli
Well amen to that, and here's hoping. Thank you and God bless these men. If we had had more of this things wouldn't have gotten so bad.
They are indeed to be congratulated. I take it that the messenger who handed the Appeal to Cardinal Angelo Sodano got a written receipt for it. That is common practice - otherwise, as you say, it could be trashed.
Not to but a downer on its contents which are strong & pertinent & requiring answers, it just would have made a tremendous impact if they took a further step & called PF a heretic (which he undoubtedly is).
As with everything else Bergoglio has done, it would be like trying to get toothpaste back into the tube!
Where is there any requirement that Catholics should believe consecrated virginity to be superior to marriage (a rather blatant contradiction of creation and incarnation) or that capital punishment may sometimes be justified? These are only opinions that some may hold to, but if these academics and pastors consider them to be doctrines perhaps they are the heretical ones.
St Paul isn't good enough for you, eh? But then, you are confused.
No, Barney, it would be your entirely predictable fundamentalist reading of St Paul that generates confusion at least for yourself.
Read a book.
No, Damian, they are not the saviors of your tidy little contained world of certitudes, they are very confused people who are trapped in their own grab bag of syllogisms.
Shaw, in particular, is a goose.
'Jack', in particular, is an ass.
yeah, and 'gerard k's version of enlightened nonfundamentalism has God destroying sodom because of inhospitality.
putz.
I don't know anything about Jack, but that was a humorous and unexpected comment, Susan.
I think Jack is probably far to the left of most of us when it comes to the Church. I hope he's not too upset with the next Pope...but I think he and all those who support what's going on will be.
I think I mentioned it before that I have a friend in Rome who is a young nun, who went all the way ti Italy to find a traditional, "old habited" teaching Order of sisters. She's alittle older than me, and is Irish American. She's been in Rome for about 10 years, and is stationed in a great little classic Italian hill town 8 miles outside Rome. But she goes back to the Motherhouse near the Vatican, and attends the Sunday Angelus in St. Peter's often.
She;s told me a lot about the simmering dislike for Francis in Rome, and Italy in general. And forget about him at Castel Gandolfo....they hate him there! Literally.
So I think we're in for a pleasant surprise with the next Pope. Not too young, not too old, and maybe even....not a Cardinal.
Damian Malliapalli
Damian.I hope they do hate the Humble Heretic in Rome!It is good news and i am pleased.In all my 63yrs i have never felt such contempt for the Apostates and Heretics in Rome who have trample the Faith into the dirt for years.May God soon deal with them!
I'd have thought the religious goods mafia would have done something about him, since he's said quite a few untoward things about their trade, including the people who do official documents.
'jack' is 'hugo' is 'gerard k' is 'chip' is 'gaybriel' et. al.....they're all the same demonic troll's nom-de-stupids. He baits because he enjoys chaos and dissent. Probably best to ignore him (when not rigorously mocking him) as his brand of malignant narcissism feeds on attention.
As to your predictions re. the next pope (and please God let it be soon!), I think only a direct miracle of God could provide what you expect. bergoglio is stacking the deck more every day in the college. Now the vile cupich will be selecting the next round of bishops, and out of that heterodox lot no doubt bergy will hand out red hats like pez....including one upcoming for cupich no soon.
This is a vile cabal at the reins; they traffic in lies, intentional error, arrogance, and abuse of authority. They love power, wield it tyrannically, and NEVER cede it...the demeanor is on display in the mexican drug cartels, the obama administration (heck, the modern democrat party), the militant sodomite movement, and myriad other leftist/marxist orgs. and asscs. across the globe. We are being inundated from hell itself, and bergoglio is one of the chief mouthpieces.
St. Paul, 1 Corinthians 7:
"It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman. Indeed, I wish that everyone were like I am. I should like you to be free from anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord; how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world; how he may please his wife, and he is divided. Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife. If you marry, however, you do not sin, nor does an unmarried woman sin if she marries; but such people will experience affliction in their earthly life, and I would like to spare you that" (c.f., Mark 12:18-27; Matt. 19:10-12; 2 Timothy 2:3).
Pope John Paul II , Vita Consecrata, 32:
“As a way of showing forth the Church's holiness, it is to be recognized that the consecrated life, which mirrors Christ's own way of life, has an objective superiority. Precisely for this reason, it is an especially rich manifestation of gospel values and a more complete expression of the Church's purpose, which is the sanctification of humanity. The consecrated life proclaims and in a certain way anticipates the future age, when the fullness of the Kingdom of Heaven, already present in its first fruits and in mystery, will be achieved and when the children of the resurrection will take neither wife nor husband, but will be like the angels of God (c.f., Matt. 22:30).”
Pope Pius XII, Sacra Virginitas, 32:
“This doctrine of the excellence of virginity and of celibacy and of their superiority over the married state was, as we have already said, revealed by our divine Redeemer and by the Apostle of the Gentiles; so too, it was solemnly defined as a dogma of divine faith by the holy Council of Trent, and explained in the same way by all the holy Fathers and doctors of the Church.”
Council of Trent:
"If anyone saith that the marriage state is to be preferred before the state of virginity, let him be anathema." [...] "writing to the Corinthians, [Paul] says: I would that all men were even as myself; that is, that all embrace the virtue of continence...A life of continence is to be desired by all.”
Catechism of the Catholic Church, 916
"The state of the consecrated life is thus one way of experiencing a "more intimate" consecration, rooted in Baptism and dedicated totally to God. In the consecrated life, Christ's faithful, moved by the Holy Spirit, propose to follow Christ more nearly, to give themselves to God who is loved above all and, pursuing the perfection of charity in the service of the Kingdom, to signify and proclaim in the Church the glory of the world to come."
Is it any surprise that celibate clerics should pronounce celibacy to be superior to marriage and consider their opinion to be infallibly true, ignoring as they do all the hard questions about how Scripture is to be properly interpreted?
And what sublime arrogance considering that there could hardly be a church at all if it were not largely made up of married people. Being infallible does not prevent you from talking twaddle.
I'm a tad reluctant to sing the praises of something that I haven't yet been allowed to read.
It's an apostolic teaching. If you want to be a Unitarian, or even a devil worshiper, you couldn't be doing a finer job, but I'll try to assume the best and suggest that you worship mostly yourself.
They won't tell me who the signatories are either, but what I can see looks good so far.
If there are any mystery writers among the signatories beloved by Francesco, it might yield some good fruit...
Is Gabriel Garcia Marquez still alive?
Slap on a tendentious label like apostolic teaching and think this proves your point, And throw out a few insults as well - the tradCath way which is doing a very fine job of promoting antiChrist or the devil, but I'll try to assume the best and suggest that your worship mostly yourself.
"contained world of certitudes"
An interesting way to describe my copy of Denzinger, Jack.
"Is it any surprise that celibate clerics should pronounce celibacy to be superior to marriage and consider their opinion to be infallibly true...?"
But now you're changing the subject.
You asked for authorities. Authorities were given to you.
That's the Magisterium we have, and the one we have always had, East and West: celibate clerics. If this is a problem for you, then you have a problem with Catholicism itself. There's a word for that, and it's called "Protestant."
The East has always had them too, and the Monks are a little little closer to angels than the laity there too. Only monks can be bishops in the East, for many good reasons.
The only certitude, Athelstane, is God. All the rest in Denzinger, the CCC etc is the inadequate language of analogy. You should know that.
Catholic teaching is that the Church exists to hand down those things that Christ taught for the salvation of men, you should know that you're not God. It's been ever thus.
You are quite right, Athelstane, I do have a problem with Catholicism, so do most Catholics that I know - the problem is that Catholicism is often not Catholic, i.e. universal, but sectarian. But that does not make us protestants. We simply want the Church to be truly itself, freed from its dominant model of secular Roman imperialism. You must surely know that to say we have always had celibate clerics, as if this is divinely instituted, is over simplifying a much more complex matter.
By the way I am by no means alone in questioning aspects of Catholicism that are questionable. Everybody does it, today traditionalists more than most. They are the ones suggesting that Pope Francis should not be pope, he is a heretic etc. etc. Where is the magisterium now?
Every generation has its Sauls of Tarsus, Judases and Simon Magi.
IN ONE PLACE: Pro Domine et Ecclesia contra #AmorisLaetitia; Petitions: To the Pope; To all Catholic Bishops - https://thewarourtime.com/2016/07/14/pro-domine-et-ecclesia-et-pontifice-contra-amorislaetitia-petitions-to-the-pope-to-all-catholic-bishops/
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