The EF’s contacts in Germany are
reporting that his eminence, Walter Cardinal Kasper (b. 5 March 1933) passed
away in his sleep early this morning due to a heart attack at the age of
eighty-three.
Certain circumstances of his death, however, seem to be confusing the news media and interfering with objective reporting. Sources close to the Cardinal tell us that after reading Michel de Certeau’s L’invention du quotidien, Kasper was inspired to go to confession during Holy Week for the first time since the early 1990s. Apparently, Pope Francis’s love of Jesuitical pop-psychology masquerading as culture criticism and the offer of an easy plenary indulgence during the Year of Mercy have brought about the conversion of at least one, stiff-necked, hardhearted, notorious, and public sinner.
Details regarding funeral arrangements have yet to be released to the public.
We at the EF are committed to keeping the reading public informed about the life of the Church and the world with the most up-to-date and accurate information possible. Stay tuned as the details of the Cardinal’s death and funeral arrangements continue to be revealed. We encourage all to pray for those who mourn.
I forgot, it is April 1st, April fools day. You almost had me believing this article was true.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of the man at all but if this is a joke then it is in very poor taste and not worthy of this site (of which I am a fan).
ReplyDeleteI agree with your sentiments. It is at best an occasion of sin against charity.
DeleteI agree. I am deeply disappointed in this site.
DeleteI tend to agree. As much as I detest Kasper, this is out of place.
DeleteDAJD
This is a fine site and I fully intend to refer to it every day as I have for some years. This particular post is unfortunate.
Delete"aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus"
A false message of some one' s death cannot be even on April fools day ,especially from a Traditional Catholic blog. We believe it s a genuine message. RIP.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing on the death of Walter Kaspar, anywhere?
ReplyDeleteI looked on the websites of ABC, BBC, CBS and NBC and couldn't find anything.
DeleteHaha. Good one, Mr or Ms. Flower.
ReplyDeleteSeattle kim
Who is Mr. Flower?
ReplyDeleteMr or ms eponymous flower of course!
DeleteIn charity, can this please be confirmed as either true (per your sources) or a hoax? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteIn charity---it's April Fools so what do you think?
Kim
I don't know what April Fools is? Something celebrated in Seattle? Seems kind of odd.
DeleteThis is about April Fools' Day (April 1):
Deletehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day
This is really strange. Who is Kim? Was the EF site hacked? This is very un charitable, if this is an April fools joke.
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ReplyDeleteBye.
DeleteMichael Kro , I am not a fan of Kasper and I don't mind the April fools joke but I have to agree with you that many so call Traditionalist SIMPLY DON'T HAVE ANY CHARITY IN THEM.
DeleteThey talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
They are like the guys from the Remnant.
READ :
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2016/04/mr-matt-is-not-a-violent-man-2.html
Again I don't agree with Father Longenecker most of the time BUT I agree with him about Mr Matt and Mr Ferrara.
Rorate Caeli is another blog that crosses way too many lines they also EXPECT PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY AND IF YOU DON'T THEY BLOCK YOU AND WILL ALSO BLOCK YOU FROM THEIR TWITTER ACCOUNT.
SO MUCH FOR CHRISTIAN CHARITY.
SOME Traditionalist need to realize that they are sinners too and especially they sin with their pride.
May God help us because Tradition is being affected in a bad way by many prideful people.
And Tancred I hope yo allow my comment because way too many comments get block and people need to hear when they are wrong.
Our God, the one true God, is the God of comedy. Note the sarcasm of the Incarnate Word: "What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind?" As well as the fully smart aleck and sarcastic things He said to the Pharisees on many many occasions.
DeleteEveryone knows that April 1st is April Fools Day, and the tone and content of this article make it so apparently transparent that this is a joke for April Fools Day. Get over yourself, Jesus is probably laughing and will thank the posters for a good laugh in an otherwise tragic time.
Show me in the Holy Gospels, even once, where Our Lord laughs.
DeleteDeoacveritati
DeleteThe link you gave doesn’t want to work for me.
You are correct about the “superiority” of some so-called/self-named “Traditionalists” – a phrase I personally detest. Often it translates into arrogance, especially for one of the big cheeses on RC.
Why is it that some Cathos want to claim the inside track, why do they want to be the fons et origo of every development ? They do not understand, so it seems to me, that an instant reaction to a post or a statement or a new idea is not always the best approach. Calm reflection and consideration of the rights and wrongs of the case in point are usually better. The idea that one must be quick, quick is silly.
I remember somewhere, reading that pride is the worst of all the sins, because of its direct opposition to the Lord God. It might have been back during my schooldays, it is deep in my soul, I know that.
Back to the point : I think Cardinal Kasper has just been dealt the Ace of trumps ( NO ! = no connection at all !). It will be so interesting to see how he will play it.
Sounds like you all have some deep personal issues to sort out before you demand charity from others. Do you know what it is?
DeletePlease tell us what our personal issues are and how you arrived at the knowledge of them. Divine Inspiration?
DeleteThe inability to form rational objections to what you all seem to feel so strongly about, or even to comprehend what was written, just for starters?
Delete"Show me in the Holy Gospels, even once, where Our Lord laughs."
DeleteHow apropos of a request, especially concerning this article inspired by at least one wanting to do wicked and evil things against the teachings of Holy Mother Church and against truth! I will show you Psalm 2 and Psalm 37!
"Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, 'Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.' The One enthroned in heaven LAUGHS; the Lord scoffs at them. He rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying, 'I have installed my king on Zion, my holy mountain.'" -Psalm 2: 1-6
"Do not fret because of those who are evil or be envious of those who do wrong; for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away... A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found... The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them; but the Lord LAUGHS at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming." -Psalm 37: 1-2, 10, 12-13
If this an April fool, it is in the worst taste imaginable, as such a lie should weigh heavily on your soul.
ReplyDeleteif His Eminence is indeed dead then I will offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass for him.
Any moral theology I've ever read gives such unmalicious falsehoods a pass.
DeleteIntention must count for something.
If you're complaining about bad taste, well, I'd rather be a saint than a gentleman.
You're neither a saint or a gentleman.
DeleteSays Gaybriel.
DeleteAre you inferring I am 'gay'? You're walking on thin ice.You're not above the law.
DeleteAnd insane.
DeleteKeep going...
DeleteYou're insane if you think there is any kind of legal recourse for attributing things to a pseudonym on the internet, but you're probably worse than insane, and evil.
DeleteWow! Now THIS is a real Trad! You just outed yourself!You are your own judge, jury AND verdict.
DeleteSorry, I forgot to tell you to read St. Matthew 5:11. Thank you and may the Sacred Heart be your refuge now, more than ever. No, I really mean it. God bless.
DeleteYour unintelligible approach to Christianity is probably why you're such a troglodyte who can't communicate why he/she feels and thinks as he/she does. That's been the problem, generally, with everyone commenting negatively on this. You have no rational basis for any of your concerns, but thanks for the emotional response all the same. You might not know why you do what you do, but at least you're not indifferent.
DeleteThank you for the psychoanalysis. You truly are the perfect man(?). And the quintessential Catholic. How many troglodytes do you think listen to you, O Master. Mt.5:11. Was Our Lord a troglodyte? O please enlighten us.
DeletePS: what is a troglodyte?I am Soooo impressed by your eloquence.Please, please help my....troglodytes.
DeleteThey are the holy hermits. Gee, I'm privileged and honored. Again, God bless you.
DeleteI'm asking for a coherent explanation, that's all. In the absence of that, I'm forced to conclude an absence of reason and a lack of good will.
DeletePlease delete this pont. I read EF everyday but gear the damage to this site's reputation may be lasting. What a gift to the opponents of tradition, and what a wrong against Card. Kasper, much though I disagree with him on just about everything.
ReplyDeletePlease delete this post. I read EF everyday and fear the damage to this site's reputation may be lasting. What a gift to the opponents of tradition, and what a wrong against Card. Kasper, much though I disagree with him on just about everything
Deletebad form
ReplyDeleteI've written some bad blog posts in my time but this is such a bad one this blog deserves a walkout of readership.
ReplyDeleteNot clever.
If this is meant to be a joke, I am never visiting this blog again. Terrible.
ReplyDeleteAs an April Fools this doesn't work - it doesn't work on any level.
ReplyDeleteNot amused. This was done is extremely bad taste!
ReplyDeleteSorry EF, but this post was a bad idea. To joke about anyone dying, even those we may not agree with, is wrong. Please take this post down.
ReplyDeleteI will continue to read this blog, as it provides the news that we need in these troubling times. But i certainly am disappointed in your decision to put this up as a joke.
People get a grip.
ReplyDeleteGet a grip? You actually think Our Lord would laugh if He read this article?
DeleteAnonymous, go read Psalm 2: 4-6 and Psalm 37, then come back and answer your own question. (Especially regarding those in the hierarchy of the Church plotting evil against her teachings [and inspiring the April Fools article here].)
DeleteThe commenters are correct. To joke about someone's death in this vein is unworthy of a Catholic site.
ReplyDeleteGet a grip? How about some tact. Maybe the good Father Blake takes his Priesthood a bit too seriously! Though I find the entire post in bad taste, the end could have said "April Fools" or just kidding - so we simple folks, with no sense of humor, aren't offering prayers or the Holy Sacrifice for anothers soul. Some matters my friend just aren't funny or matters for clowning.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't take the Priesthood seriously ....
DeleteIt's clearly marked "satire" even if you were so daft as to believe it were real.
DeleteWhere is it marked "satire"??? To lie is to sin.
DeleteRashly accusing someone of sin is a sin.
DeleteIt's too bad that Cardinal Casper won't be a friendly ghost.
ReplyDeletebwa ha ha.
DeleteKim
I joke about people dying all the time. The post is even labeled as satire for the mentally challenged and psychologically fragile.
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect, that label is not very easily seen, and it is at the bottom of the post. Disparaging remarks are not appropriate ways to communicate your reasoning. I am one of the people who missed the minuscule "satire" label. I guess in your words, my simple mistake makes me "mentally challenged and psychologically fragile." I know for a fact that I am neither.
DeleteMaybe I need a new pair of glasses, but..where is it labeled as satire? I couldn't find it.
DeleteRight under the "posted by..." text at the every end of the article. It's in the "labels" section. Very small and easy to miss. It took me a couple tries to find it.
DeleteGet a bigger magnifying glass or a stronger prescription?
DeleteLike you? Show me where it is written as satir
DeleteNo.
DeleteYou really think that if Jesus was beside you reading this article that He would laugh? You're delusional!
DeleteMaybe you should ask Him?
DeleteUpon receiving the news, Hans Kung lost his voice. Experts say he will only be able to speak again after participating in a EF mass on Good Friday
ReplyDeleteTee hee.
DeleteAlmost a year ago this blog broke the story that the Pope's hand-picked inquisitor for the FFI, Fr. Volpi was seriously ill or had died. This was denied by Volpi's associates and in true Stalinist fashion, Eponymous Flower was viciously attacked and maligned by representatives of the Church. Then a few days later it turned out that Eponymous Flower had been absolutely right. It was the new masters at the FFI who had lied and slimed a fellow Catholic.
ReplyDeleteI can't speak for the author but I suspect there was more than a bit of self-deprecation in today's post, as well as perhaps some April Fool's payback.
I thought the post was funny. With respect to everyone, I think we should all lighten up.
I must disagree with you, Mr. Spalding. Before we concern ourselves with "lightening up", perhaps some need to wise up first. This post serves no constructive purpose whatsoever.
DeleteNot sure what the big deal is. Maybe it's an autistic defect?
DeleteNo, I didn't get through engineering school with an autistic defect. The article is in poor taste and you should be embarrassed and ashamed.
DeleteSince you're wasting your time, presuming to know what God thinks about things, trolling away, tell me why this is in poor taste. My feeling is that you're either too dim or evil, probably both, to explain yourself.
DeleteHorrible taste
ReplyDeleteOffensive and in very poor taste. Unworthy of a Catholic.
ReplyDeleteShame and woe with brass knobs on!
ReplyDeleteNow I will have to resume my prayers that he will be blessed with a holy death.
DeleteYou should not have posted this, unless it was true. It is wrong to wish someone dead, but I must admit, that if Kasper's death, or Pope Francis' death were announced, I would not rejoice like some.....but I wouldn't care either.
ReplyDeleteFor a second I thought this was true, and gave into the feeling all traditional, good Catholics would feel if it were verified.
I;m not disappointed if it's false, because that would be sinful. Let's just say that posting a fake report about someone famous who is reviled by many as having died,( only to get an anticipated reaction from the people who hated him), is a little bit disturbed.
If it's true....then that's another story. Francis will be next if it's true.
Damian Malliapalli
Maybe your EF contacts meant Cardinal Georges Cottier, O.P., onetime Papal Theologian who actually did die early this A.M. April 1 at age 93 at the Policlinico Agostno Gemelli in Rome.
ReplyDeleteWas Cottier a rad like Francis and Kasper, or just the dime-a-dozen Vatican II moderate/progressive?
Damian Malliapalli
Not funny. Very disappointed in you. Catholics are supposed to be better than this low attempt at humor.
ReplyDeleteThis just came in: The College of Cardinals is considering the adaptation of a St. Louis Cardinals uniform design for their new summer cassocks. If approved, the new College breast-plate logo will feature two new Popes each season, facing each other from standing positions on both ends of a horizontally inclined obelisk. -The Pecan Park Eagle Blog
ReplyDeleteThis is not one bit funny. Grow up; April Fool is for seventh-grade students. G'bye, E-Flour! I won't be visiting your site anymore.
ReplyDeleteIF this really was mean as just an April Fools Joke, then you're insulting everyone who look to you for truthful reporting of Catholic news. It makes me (and probably more than just me)what other reports you all have posted which we all bought into which are actually inaccurate...or downright lies.
ReplyDeleteIf Kasper did actually die, no tears for the a.h.
Damian Malliapalli
Follow your own paper trail on these pages, Malliapalli, and you will see just how much energy you have expended into wishing the speedy death of Pope Francis and that's no joke.
DeleteConservative, moderate and liberal bloggers have posted scathing comments about you. Those bloggers have also commented repeatedly about the coarse tone that prevails on many traditionalist blogs.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, you have just played into their hands via your disgrace post about Walter Cardinal Kasper. You have just solidified the poor reputation that you have among them. About that, I'm certain that you don't care.
However, through your hateful April Fool's "joke," like it or not, you just sullied the reputation of traditional Catholic blogs. You may deny that. You man not care one bit about that.
But like it or not, you have granted to conservatives, moderates, and liberals additional "proof" as to why, in their minds, traditional Catholics are "nasty" and hateful."
You are on the defensive with your comments. You know that you made a major mistake by way of your hateful post about Cardinal Kasper. Feel free to attempt to try in vain to defend yourself and/or blow people off by telling them "bye."
Again, it doesn't matter one bit that you intend to deny the obvious. You made a major, major mistake via your utterly disgraceful post about Cardinal Kasper.
I am finished with you. Now, to save you time, I will type your response to me: "Bye!"
There. You don't have to say it. Bye.
Kevin Williams
Tancred is a boor---and has always been on this blog. His sarcasm, pettiness, irrationality, and fragile ego are in evidence everywhere in his caustic answers. He is eminently unworthy of carrying out this work, no matter how much time he has devoted to it, and continues to be an affirmation for the slanders of the Modernists against the traditionalists. I hope no one visits this blog again. Bye. Tancre: "Bye."
DeleteNone of you have really demonstrated what's wrong with the joke, and your hysterical comments are nothing short of hysterical and border on the delusional.
DeleteI have a presentiment that those of you who are objecting to this joke are going to be at a loss as to come up with an explanation of what's wrong with it.
Oh, and "Erasmus". Didn't you say you weren't coming back again? Well, bye, a second time. Make good on your resolutions.
DeleteTancred, I agree that levity about death has a Christian optimism beneath it, but this usually applies to joking about one's OWN death, not that of others. You mention intention as exculpatory. Maybe so. But the problem is, this post suggests that you would celebrate Cardinal Kasper's demise. He is the enemy of all you stand for, and for what I stand for by the way. The reason why joking about the demise of one's enemies is particularly out of place is because we are supposed to avoid wishing our enemies ill in particular, even in jest. Cardinal Kasper is an old man and he has much to answer for. I don't think it's going to be very funny when he does shake off this mortal coil. Sad rather because he is such a long way from Tipperary. The post was a lapse in judgment. You should take it down. But not before Fr. Longenecker sees the comments.
ReplyDeleteI dont think anyone said they'd be celebrating Kasper's death.
DeleteOh really? So I suppose you could have just as easily substituted Bishop Fellay instead of Cardinal Kasper, right? Don't play your readers for fools.
DeleteBishop Fellay isn't Cardinal Kasper?
DeleteWow the trolls sure came out on this one. The Eponymous Flower breaks news faster than anyone and reports on things that get little to no coverage anywhere else. For those of you who have had your holier-than-thou 15 seconds of fame by judging him, good for you! Continue to revel in your narcissism. You'll be back of course, because this is where you get the scoop and you know it.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, It is for the fact you point out that we come here to find news we would not read anywhere else. That's what makes this site great. Last year someone objected to these April Fools jokes. Condemning April Fools as the pagan feast of lies, compared April Fools as the now pagan Holloween as the feast of satan and his minions, the Mardi Gras as the feast of committing all the sins one wants on the day before Ash Wednesday. That blogger was threatened to be blacklisted for what he said and his comments were removed. I believed then and now that, that blogger was right. This is a serious site and such stupid jokes are unbecoming of it. We all know now that its best not to look for serious Catholic news on April 01 on Eponymous Flower. If another site on April 01 reported seriously that Tancred was a member of ISIS and had just blown himself up as a suicide bomber, would we find it funny? No we would not. Take a lesson from this Tancred!
DeleteAnonymous, It is for the fact you point out that we come here to find news we would not read anywhere else. That's what makes this site great. Last year someone objected to these April Fools jokes. Condemning April Fools as the pagan feast of lies, compared April Fools as the now pagan Holloween as the feast of satan and his minions, the Mardi Gras as the feast of committing all the sins one wants on the day before Ash Wednesday. That blogger was threatened to be blacklisted for what he said and his comments were removed. I believed then and now that, that blogger was right. This is a serious site and such stupid jokes are unbecoming of it. We all know now that its best not to look for serious Catholic news on April 01 on Eponymous Flower. If another site on April 01 reported seriously that Tancred was a member of ISIS and had just blown himself up as a suicide bomber, would we find it funny? No we would not. Take a lesson from this Tancred!
DeleteIf I were so thin skinned to be cowed by negative attention and disapproval from kooky sedes no less, I'm guessing I wouldn't be doing it at all. I've already learned the lesson that Internet meltdowns by the easily wounded are just as easily ignored.
DeleteHey Tancred-- I'm
DeleteA kooky sede and I love this blog. You are my good humor man! Keep up the great work and to hell with the snowflakes!'
Seattle Kim
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf204.xxv.iii.iv.ix.html
ReplyDeleteSome of you poe-faced pollyannas ought to read St. Athanasius' account of the death of the heretic Arius. Nowhere does he exult in the death of the heretic. Nevertheless, he gives thanks to God that the manner of his death (prolapsing his bowels when he squatted for a dump behind the forum!) was a clear indication from heaven that Arianism was detestable to God and could never be admitted within Holy Mother Church.
I think the only reason so many of you are angry with Tancred is that you were exulting at the news until you realized it was a Fool's Day satire, and you have responded to your pricked consciences by turning your ire onto him instead of hanging your heads in shame.
Bad taste? Perhaps, but the English specialize in bad taste satire and we do not make a habit of excommunicating each other over off-colour jokes. Get a life.
Projecting much, are you? Did St. Athanasius make a joke regarding how Arius might have died? No. He didn't lie and he didn't turn it into an occasion of questionable mirth. Bad analogy.
DeletePerfectly said Deacon, bravo!!
DeleteNo it isn't, it's coarse.
DeleteFor those who've expressed distaste for Tancred's "joke" about Cardinal Kasper, at least Tancred has posted the comments in question.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the "joke" is opposed to Christian charity. But I don't believe in casting the first stone at Tancred. We should approach Tancred, all persons, in the spirit of charity.
I believe that if Cardinal Kasper were made aware of Tancred's "joke", and as a priest, determined that the "joke" indeed constituted a sin, I'm certain the Cardinal would forgive Tancred.
I have read many hateful comments about Cardinal Kasper on Tancred's blog. However, I am convinced that Cardinal Kasper would treat Tancred with great mercy — the kind of mercy that many have here not shown to Cardinal Kasper.
I at least hope that Tancred, in Confession, will bring this April Fools "joke" to the attention of a priest to determine whether the "joke" constituted sin against charity. But that decision is up to Tancred.
The "joke", in my opinion, is, at the very least, in poor taste. But it's not my place to condemn Tancred.
It is my place to follow Pope Francis lead in regard to mercy. In particular, as this is the Year of Mercy, I urge each of us to treat Tancred and all people with mercy.
Jonathan Simmons
Mr. Simmons, it is not "mercy" to give this poor post a pass. Recall Mr. William's words above, that this post gives all faithful Catholic bloggers a slap that they simply don't need. The last time I checked, "rebuke the sinner" was first on the list of the Spiritual Works of Mercy. There is a difference between objecting to this post and condemning Tancred. No one is doing the latter and I regret that you cannot - or will not - acknowledge the difference.
DeleteNot sure what your objection is, and I didn't write this anyway.
DeleteBut you allowed it on your blog and appear to be defending it.
DeleteOf course I'm defending it. I added something which I thought makes it funny, the bit about not having gone to confession for 25 years was me.
DeleteIs Kasper even Catholic? The fact that he has any cache to speak on Catholic affairs makes me mad as hell, hence the provenance, in part, of the post, but the inspiration was Hanlon's who's deathly ill right now, but will probably recover, God willing.
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DeleteI still have no idea what all the ire is about.
DeletePlease, God, let this evil Cardinal do penance for his sins, which are many and public, (scandalizing the little ones) and send him to heaven before he offends you again!
You made my heart sing for a second. April fool am I.
ReplyDeleteWell, St. Nicholas punched Arius in the kisser...AT a Council! And I'm sure that riled the Fr. Longneckers of the day.
ReplyDeleteI hesitate to write again because I don't want to argue with my Catholic friends. But Tancred didn't kill anyone. He didn't wish anyone dead. He most certainly didn't lie (satire and/or April Fools jokes are not lies) and he didn't harm the cause. The post wasn't "constructive." So what? It was a silly April Fools Day joke and clearly marked--implicitly and explicitly. If you didn't initially get it, that's fine. But don't blame him for that.
Fr. Longnecker and the Usual Suspects hate us. They will hate us whatever we do. To say that Tancred "played into their hands" or whatever is to play into their hands.
I learned something here today. I had no idea that folks were wound up this tight. Nothing happened here that anyone needs to go to Confession for either. Sheesh.
ReplyDeleteEpic punk Tancred! I can't believe all the snowflakes with their panties in a wad.
ReplyDeleteI only wish I could write things that get people this mad. I didn't write it. Congrats to Max Hanlon for an epic, if mostly unintentional, troll of the chronically abused, but ever eager to obey the unjust, constituency of NeoChristendom
ReplyDeleteNot funny, guys. I'm surprised at you.
ReplyDeleteTancred, as you are a Catholic, why would you wish to "write things that get people this mad"? I would think that you would wish to write things that are joyful, hopeful, and charitable.
ReplyDeleteAs to who is responsible for the uncharitable post about Cardinal Kasper's death, is this your blog or Max Hanlon's blog? Do you control what is posted here or does Max Hanlon control this blog?
Anyway, I believe that you (and for that matter, Max Hanlon) committed a serious error against charity with the post about Cardinal Kasper. I can only suggest that you bring up the matter of this post during Confession to allow a priest to determine whether the matter of the post constituted sin.
But that matter is up to you. Again, I don't have any desire or most certainly any right to cast the first stone against you. I believe that what you have done is wrong. But I need to consider my defects long before I would even dream to cast the first stone at you (which I wouldn't do anyway).
I also wish to reiterate that whoever is responsible for the post against Cardinal Kasper would no doubt be forgiven (if he determined the post uncharitable) by Cardinal Kasper. I am certain that Cardinal Kasper would extend great mercy to the person responsible for the post about him.
Jonathan Simmons
You must be one of those Eagle's Wings people.
DeleteThe blog is polemical, and self-satisfied, smug Catholics need more than being challenged, inmho.
After all the sound and fury, I still have no idea what's so baleful about a harmless joke. I guess someone must have put something in the water, or maybe some people think they're fighting the Donald, swinging at gnats and swallowing camels, and all that.
If you have no idea what's so baleful about this article you need to pray for a more sensitive conscience.
DeleteOk, so you don't know what you're talking about. I sincerely requested the help of your charity and you responded by claiming that I should already know.
DeleteSeems unjust to accuse someone of malice and when they claim not to understand what the problem is, insist that they should know themselves.
It sounds as abusive as it is unjust.
Quote unquote : “We encourage all to pray for those who mourn.” So you have actually asked Cathos to pray for the soul of someone who is not, in fact, dead. I just can’t get my head round how on earth that can be a Catholic idea.
ReplyDeleteLook man, everyone makes bloopers, everyone. I am convinced that, if you are man enough to ‘fess up’ (I think that’s the correct expression), to admit your error and then delete the post, no-one would think any the worse about you, in fact you would probably return to the place you have occupied for quite a while, a worthy one. If you don’t and you persist in your attitude, you may find it to be a bad idea, I hope not.
Let me put it another way, as you seem to be locked hard in to this daft idea. Just consider how much trouble has been caused by “a person who lives very close to Rome” after making ill-considered remarks. That must give you pause for thought ?
Please give it a re-look, please – and, look, why not say sorry to the Cardinal too ? It takes a real man to make an apology, just the same as it takes a real man to accept one and I’ll bet the Cardinal will forgive you.
Go on, give it a go. Please.
"We encourage all to pray for those who mourn." Is itself a joke, which you obviously missed. Read the sentence again.
DeleteI missed this joke as well. Brilliant!
DeleteWay to evade Jeremiah's point!
DeleteWay to evade Jeremiah's point!
DeleteBy showing how he didn't understand the post in the first place?
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