Edit: Although Justice Atonin Scalia was what the Old Liberal, Crux News, describes as a "champion of traditional Catholicism", and was a regular participant at the Immemorial Mass of All Ages at St. Catherine of Siena Church in Great Falls, Virginia at ChurchMilitant, who did not specify any details about the Liturgy. We now know, through a representative of the Shrine where the "English" Mass is to be held, that Scalia's funeral Mass will be the Mass of Bugnini and not the Immemorial Mass of All Ages, despite the fact that his son, Father Paul Scalia, will be celebrating.
ChurchMilitant anticipates some scandal as Joe Biden comes up for another sacrilegious Communion. The event can be watched, live streaming on CNN.
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(Yawn) big shock here...
Why? Why not a Traditional funeral Mass? For political correctness? Seems hard to believe that would be Justice Scalia's wishes.
"English Mass" my ass. Renaming the Novus Ordo is just a marketing ploy, an attempt to legitimatize the freemason approved Nivus Ordo Prot service.
Where is Father Scalia in all this? Is he not a Catholic priest as opposed to a Novus Ordo one? Surely he will be offering his own father's requiem Mass!?
Is it possible that Wuerl's cloven hoof prints are on this?....the Mass will be offered in his diocese.
Last rites for a corpse and now a funeral mass for ashes. Hmmm.
John
And the celebrant is going to wear white or purple vestments, "something that symbolizes hope" according to RNS. Is this a canonization Mass?
It is not imprudent to assume that Wuerl's nefarious meddling is to be noticed in all this. He is a sworn enemy of tradition, unlike Bishop Loverde in Arlington. I wonder why they could not have chosen a large church in the Arlington diocese to offer the mass. I have been to Father Scalia's traditional mass at St. John the Beloved in McLean when he was rector there several times, and he seems like a very devoted, fine priest. It is a shame he seems to be politically cautious in the matter of his great father's funeral---something that should reflect the Justice's life convictions as a traditional Catholic. Most disappointing! RC
I think his son was ordained by a novus ordo bishop.According to the church Father's,a doubtful Sacrament is to be avoided.
I wish Paul VI hadn't changed holy order's.It just caused even more confusion and heartache.
Am I the only who feels this way?Very interested to see how many feel like I do.
I feel the same way, but I do believe the NO is valid.
Think would have been a great sacrilege to do a holy sacrifice of the mass for a cremated body, but think Wuerl prolly said TLM (1962) could be done but would have to be private.
I only saw him here; unfortunately, not impressed. Tradition is a preference only to be exercised when doesn't interfere w/something more important like a personal preference of your eccentric father (who the more he was idolized the more eccentric he became) "i want to be cremated", or a big televised public funeral or air conditioning (see first few min of speech)... He seems MORE than a little modern to me -- sure women don't veil or wear dresses at his whatever all of you call the (holy sacrifice of the) mass:
http://restore-dc-catholicism.blogspot.com/2015/02/from-maturation-department-cardinal.html
For a man prolly burnin' in hell as we speak.
Prolifers punch this:
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/16/8-times-justice-scalia-affirmed-there-is-no-right-to-abortion-in-the-constitution/
They don't punch this (also a problem w/Cruz & sodomite marriage):
"Dissenting in Casey, Justice Antonin Scalia stated, "The states may, if they wish, permit abortion-on-demand, but the Constitution does not require them to do so.""
"What is the connection between your Catholicism, your Jesuit education, and your judicial philosophy?" Stahl asks.
"It has nothing to do with how I decide cases," Scalia replies. "My job is to interpret the Constitution accurately. And indeed, there are anti-abortion people who think that the Constitution requires a state to prohibit abortion. They say that the Equal Protection Clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong. I think when the Constitution says that persons are entitled to equal protection of the laws, I think it clearly means walking-around persons. You don't count pregnant women twice."
http://www.pewsitter.com/view_news_id_8810.php
No wonder 60 million babies murdered in the U.S. And another 3,000 today. Scalia thought faithful "catholicism" meant a professional and social life that excluded Jesus Christ (like Pelosi--Jesus Christ is only important at mass one hour a week--but then laugh and dance w/the anti-Christ who votes to legalize abortion and sodomite marriage):
"I have no illusions that your man will nominate someone who shares my orientation(ha ha ha - get it)," said Scalia, then in his 23rd year as the court's leading and most provocative conservative voice. "But I hope he sends us someone smart."
...He wasn't done. Leaning forward, as if to share a confidential thought,..."Let me put a finer point on it," the justice said, in a lower, purposeful tone of voice, his eyes fixed on mine. "I hope he sends us Elena Kagan."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/14/opinions/david-axelrod-surprise-request-from-justice-scalia/
"We were best buddies," Ginsburg wrote after Scalia died on Saturday."
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/15/466848775/scalia-ginsburg-opera-commemorates-sparring-supreme-court-friendship
http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2016/02/rip-antonin-nino-gregory-scalia.html#comment-form
Think many self-called faithful N.O.ers would wake up, but like Rorate braggin about oped on Scalia(!) in WSJ (that the day before had an article about us needing death panels) they are too busy spreading the lies about "faithful Scalia" (faithful me) to realize how far they've been blown off course walkin' along to Egypt and that Christ may judge their lives very differently than they do. Like their 1/2 trad priests Scalia they are too busy makin' waffles.
http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2016/02/18/why-we-need-to-start-putting-a-price-on-human-life/
Scalia attended a conservative parish where a Latin Novus Ordo was said.
He's also said that St. Thomas Aquinas was wrong on some points of law.
His dissenting opinion in Obergefell v. Hodges didn't even mention natural law, which would've been a much, much stronger argument than what he gave.
At least Cdl. Burke gets it right when he said in Remaining in the Truth of Christ:
"Regarding law, in general, there has developed the notion that the law has no relation to objective truth but is constituted by whatever man, usually the judge, decides.²⁸ Such a theory was proposed in my homeland, the United States of America, already in 1897 by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.²⁹"
Footnote 29 cites the article:
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., The Path of Law.
Don't you people sleep?
Who are the others you're referring to? I'm only one person.
It's a common misconception among Catholics that Scalia was the Supreme Court justice who represents Catholic teaching. From "Why Justice Scalia Disagrees with St. Thomas:"
"Aquinas also states several times that when equity demands it, judges should depart from the text to vindicate the natural law."
…
"In no circumstance is a judge to depart from the text in order to perfect the law, according to Justice Scalia."
This is Phariseeism!
And it has nothing to do with this post.
How can it have nothing to do w/this post? Why should he be buried w/the (traditional) Catholic mass when he was not a (traditional) Catholic? Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. He lived by the N.O. and he died by the N.O. God has the last word.
My wife has 9 kids, but your wife is a woman (to Elena Kagan!, but who cares because you are "smart" [the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God!]? Ginsburg & Kagan vote to murder m(b)illions and for sodomite marriage, Scalia socializes w/them. They're his best buds, but he won't attend the papal speech to congress or the papal "mass". How is Scalia any less responsible in his circle of light than the Pope -- is it only the pope who is to spread or live the Gospel?
Scalia is a perfect illlustration of what is wrong w/ those who think they are "faithful" Catholics. It is questionable to me if he even qualifies for purgatory based on his hypocrisy (double standards) and words such as "the states can legalize abortion" [what about THEIR constitutions? also the states (voters) could legalize axe murder or pedophilia or teaching children sado masochism too, but what follower of Jesus Christ would say such a thing w/out immediately adding "God forbid!"?).
Because it doesn't?
Geremia, are you sure about that?
St. Catherines
Sunday
8:00 am
10:00 am
12:00 pm *Solemn High Latin Mass
Scalia was a Paulian (6) Catholic. And that's the service he got buried w/. Just like Henry 8 got a Cranmer service.
Scalia attended N.O. whenever he felt like it (and communicated).
http://www.politico.com/gallery/2014/10/photos-red-mass/002057-029211.html
Scalia son was ordained at an N.O.
http://www.bishopoconnell.org/page.cfm?p=1029
Many people, like you tancred, think you can sacrifice a pinch of incense whenever you feel like it, but that it really doesn't count because you'd rather not. Unfortunately, the prize goes to those who sacrifice all, i.e. the martyrs like St. Paul who light up Nero's garden as a human torch rather than apostasize Jesus Christ at the N.O.
Tancred read "The Judas Goats"
& "AA-1025".After completing these books,you may feel differently about the N.O.
I don't need to read aa-1025 to know that Communists have successfully infiltrated the Catholic Church, it's a forgery, but I could stand to take a look at "Judas Goats".
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