(Rome) Cardinal Robert Sarah, for half a year prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments answered questions for an audience late one May at the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family while participating at the presentation of the new series of publications on Family "Famiglia, Lavori in corso."
"If one considers the Eucharist as a common food, from which none may be excluded, then you lose the sense of mystery." That was one of the responses of the African cardinal which unfolded in an intensive travel and giving answers in clear words to questions.
The series for the family was issued with a view to the upcoming Synod of Bishops on the family. The plan is to discuss all "hot" issues such as aberrosexuality, sexuality, divorce, artificial insemination, euthanasia, abortion and celibacy. The first three volumes have now been submitted. The first two are from lecturers of the Institute, at the Synod of Bishops in 2014which were not taken into account by the group of Consultors. It was a circumstance which had caused some amazement and criticism. The volume "Eucharist and divorce: changes the doctrine" was presented by José Granados. He is now the Consultant appointed for the second part of the Synod of Bishops. Volume Two: "Different families: Incomplete Expression of the Same Ideal" comes from Stephan Kampowski. The third volume, "What Jesus thinks about the divorced and remarried?" has been published by Professor of New Testament at the Luis Sanchez Navarro from University of San Damaso of Madrid.
"When one Considers that Even in the Baptismal Rite the Word 'Faith' is no Longer Mentioned"
"The West is indeed involved in its own illusions," said Cardinal Sarah in the book presentation. All problems are related to the faith: "When you consider that even the word 'faith' is no longer mentioned in the rite of baptism, when the parents are asked what they ask of God's Church for your child, then you can understand the scope of the problem. "The question is not trivial," says Cardinal Sarah.
The answer of Cardinal recalls words of Pope Benedict XVI. at a meeting with priests of the suburbicarian diocese in summer 2006. In contrast to Cardinal Sarah the pope then lamented an aberration. "Is it normal that a pope finds such a serious shortage, without providing to correct it? Is this renunciation begun with Paul VI., 'normal, which has now turned into arbitrariness?' asked the Roman traditional website Chiesa e postconcilio.
Already Benedict XVI. Revealed the Same Defect - Without Removing It
The criticism of Pope Benedict XVI. and Cardinal Sarah takes place against the background that the answer to the question of what the parents ask for their child from the Church, in most cases is only: "Baptism". In ancient rituals, one said: "Faith". The difference is obvious. In ancient rituals, it was asked further: "And why do you ask for faith?" "So he may have eternal life."
Parents must answer to the question in the current rituals of the new rite not "Baptism". They may rather say: "The grace of Christ"; "Eternal life"; "Inclusion in the Church", "The fact that he is a child of God." If they still give the former answer, then this is connected with the preparation for baptism. An understanding of the sacrament of baptism, which is not some "thing", provided that the the parents are not prepared prior the baptism by the baptizing priest. Therein lies a missionary significance. Otherwise there is a danger that baptism degenerates into a "beautiful family celebration", which is ordered by the parents of the candidate as a service in a parish and has to go smoothly according to their wishes.
"Yes, but" promotes minimalist understanding
Through baptism a person is incorporated into the Mystical Body of Christ. Apart from the grace of faith, it frees especially of original sin. Benedict XVI. made shortly before his resignation an incomprehensible a change in the rite of baptism (see Change in the Rite of Baptism -. Recent Decision of Benedict XVI ), but on this occasion not a few years earlier determined by him, the diminutio mentioned here was corrected.
The Roman Ritual offers, as an essential characteristic of our time, the possibility of different formulations, exceptions, derogations, additions made by the respective Episcopal Conference. "This yes-but seems to have encouraged more minimalist shortening of the understanding of baptism as the faith, that is hardly mentioned, as Cardinal Sarah currently lamented" said Messa in Latino .
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: Chiesa e postconcilio / MiL
Image: Chiesa e postconcilio / MiL
Trans: Tancred verkon99@hotmail.com
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The sacramental crisis is at the heart of every crisis in the Church, especially since the sacrament of Baptism is the gateway to all the others, and is ordered to communion. Since Vatican II the preparation for Baptism, and on going catechesis for the other sacraments of initiation have been abysmal. And the mess all started when bishops allowed priests to confer sacraments without first evangelising.
ReplyDeleteOdds are that Cardinal Sarah, like Pope Francis and Pope Benedict ,does not accept the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which says every one needs the baptism of water in the Catholic Church for salvation.
DeleteSo the Traditional Latin Mass is not being allowed for the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, one of the reasons, is that they accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( even though with confusion). They are considered crypto Lefebvrists since they affirm that all non Catholics need to convert into the Church for salvation.This would include Jews.
Since the FSSP in general does not affirm the rigorist interpretation of the dogma they are allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass.They have accepted the new ecclesiology with the litturgy.
They interpret Vatican Council II with (A) being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) , seeds of the Word (AG 11), elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8), imperfect communion with the Church (NA ) and a ray of that Truth(NA 2) CONTRADICTING (B) the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Feeneyite version.They have acceped the Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani model.
If you speak to Cardinal Sarah he will say that he rejects Feeneyism. This is expected of him by the Jewish Left. I learnt this in communication with Cardinal Francis Arinze at the Vatican.
So he interprets Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism , which infers that there are apparitions in 2015 of persons saved in (A).There would have to be real apparitions for them to be exceptions to the dogma.
This is heretical and not real for Cardinal Sarah.Yet this is the reality at the Vatican.
If he says A is not an exception to B, since A is known only to God and is hypothetical for us, then it would mean there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict B(the dogma).
Yet we cannot expect Cardinal Sarah to be corrected since even the traditionalists make the same mistake. Even for the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney in the USA, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, A contradicts B. So for them Vatican Council II is not in harmony with the rigorist interpretation of the dogma ,according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.
Liberals and traditionalists are doing catechesis and theology with the same objective error.
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Cardinal Sarah has said many great things since he became the head of CDW, but, like so many others, he fails to understand the root cause for the vanishing faith. Until he and others in Rome are ready to reassess VII, then this decline will continue.
ReplyDeleteI'm not here to say restoring the Mass and dumping VII changes things instantly because they won't. Things will improve quickly, but several generations have been lost forever. Reassessing the last 50 years of madness would mean two good things thought. First, the quality of bishops and Cardinals would drastically improve. Second, the young would finally receive a good Catholic education that would pay dividends in the decades to come.
If you speak to Cardinal Robert Sarah he will say that he rejects Feeneyism. So he interprets Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism.
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Liturgy has been made subservient to political necessity.This heretical theology and doctrine ,this development, is necessary today to offer Holy Mass
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Now HE gets the gitters over statistics.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's because no one is teaching it their to busy promoting other peoples religions .
ReplyDeleteI remember getting one of my kids baptized at a big city "diverse" yuppie-ish parish some 20 years ago. Of course, a hobby deacon, as the English call them, taught the preparation while the 70-something gay pastor arranged flowers in the back of the church, and the other priest, a 30ish up and comer who was on the archdiocesan fast track didn't have the time to be pastoral.
ReplyDeleteThe deacon went around the pews asking why we were getting our children baptized. Other attendees responded to the effect "So he can be part of the Family of God." My response was "Because I want him to get to heaven. This is just the start." People edged away from me, and the discomfited hobby priest asked me no more questions during this class and the next final one.
That is not to say I didn't ask any.
I think we have a pope who advocates the that kind of parish experience on a Roman scale.
DeleteWe have been apologizing for the Church Teachings since Vatican II and I have encountered more so called Catholics who have not been not been catechized and are clueless about what Faith is. Even though thy don't attend church they feel entitled to the Sacraments.
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