The Franciscans of the Immaculate , since 1998, have been an institute of pontifical right, were provided with papal approval to be under the provisional administration of the Congregation of Religious on July 11, 2013. Officially no reasons for the drastic intervention were given until today. In reality, the reasons have been thoroughly revised. The management of the Congregation of Religious had interfered in the Order's change of internal liturgy from the New to the Old Rite, the participation of the Order in a critical review of the Council and its documents, and the post-conciliar period, and not least the fact that the Order, because of its seriousness and rigor, has become the most flourishing Order of the Catholic Church.
Since the hard engagement of the Congregation of Religious with the dismissal of the Order's leadership and the imposition of house arrest for the Founder, Father Stefano Maria Manelli, the brothers are looking for a way to save the charism of the Order and continue to maintain the Old Rite.
Request for Change of FI to Ecclesia Dei Ignored
Already in the autumn, there was a motion that the order be recognized as an Old Rite Order and the jurisdiction of the Pontifical Commission of a considerable part of the brothers would be assumed by Ecclesia Dei. The request was ignored by the Congregation of Religious. In this context, the new test is to see, if they dispense with the already granted papal rights.Under a benevolent diocesan bishop, as the desire of the signatories of the petition, it should form a new order of diocesan right.
The Acting General of the Franciscans of the Immaculate Conception, to be exact the papal commissioner appointed by the Secretary-General, Father Alfonso Bruno, has responded now on the article: "Rorate Caeli is lying again about us". For the brothers who want to keep the Old Rite, the Secretary-General has only few merciful, disparage words.
New Order of Diocesan Right?
However, the Curial General, confirmed there was a request to "be released from religious vows," but played down the scope. "Only about 15 priests and seminarians and most in temporary vows" would have made the request. In short, only about ten percent of the remaining members of the Order and not 30-40 percent. The inner need of the friars after a year under provisional administration, the prohibition of the Old Rite, the imposition of numerous restrictions, the dissolution of several monasteries, the suspension and removal of the international seminary is completely ignored by the Secretary-General.
"No Bishop Even Wants Them"
In a mocking tone the Curial General insists hat the priests who want to leave the Order, "have not even found a bishop in two months" who would be willing to accept them. Father Alfonso Bruno, the Order's internal gray eminence behind the coup of 2013 against the order leadership, simultaneously provides his interpretation of things corresponding to that line he spread since last summer: When the request for release of the religious vows and desire to found a new order is that it was "merely a destructive and sabotaging strategy of former superiors who do not want the end of the crisis for ideological reasons and personal interests." However, the Secretary General also gave no reasons in this case for the provisional administration, nor what the "crisis" is and who caused this "crisis".
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
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Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
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As someone who communicates regularly with the FFI, I can confirm that much of what has been posted at Rorate about this subject has been inaccurate.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is your FFI sources who have given you inaccurate information. Rorate Caeli is known to have excellent sources. In this article the Curial General says in a Pope Francis merciful style, "have not even found a Bishop in two months". There were already Bishops who welcomed them, but then the wolves came in uninvited and ruined everything. The Curial General has thus made himself look foolish by his own statement. If Bishops should invite the FFI, I'm sure those of the likes of this Curial General would continue to hound the FFI like the wolves that they are. This would mean catastrophe in those good Bishops Dioceses. I pray God to destroy their evil deeds.
DeleteActually, most of what's been reported by the Provisional Commisar hasn't only been inaccurate but downright libelous.
DeleteLibel... oh, stop being such a restorationist Pharisee.
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Salvelinus, Are you kidding or are you serious with that comment? Because "libelous" is a fact in this case. Perhaps the FFI should be realistic and file civil criminal charges for slander against their Godless enemies for all the lies. Perhaps civil law is the answer. The liars in Rome should pay the price for their crimes. I still can't understand why the FFI believes it owes any obedience to heretics, thats not being holy, thats being foolish.
DeleteUmmmmm im kidding... hence the emoticon.
DeleteRelax buddy
The Manelli family sued for libel when they accused them of trying to profit from the order, and no one has gone to jail yet.
DeleteLibel is punishable under criminal law in Italy.
Salvelinus, Now I can relax. It was that smiling face that caused me to wonder and ask. I didn't know if it was someone who was kidding or if it was the smile of a modernist after striking a blow to a traditionalist.
DeleteIt is more than significant that Rorate Caeli actually stopped blogging some time ago.
ReplyDeleteAnd what do you mean by, "more than significant". Rorate Caeli for one does not solicit nor do they accept donations. They offer their services for Christ and his Church free. Rorate Caeli explained that for the time being they would not be posting any more comments because they could not keep up with them. It is also my understanding that Rorate Caeli was being kept under careful watch by the modernists, with the intention of causing them grave consequences for daring to defend the Church. I wonder if this is not one of the reasons they stopped the blogging as faithful Catholics were speaking their minds. We all know that we traditionalists are not allowed to speak against the heretics. The days of silencing us are over but they just won't accept this.
DeleteI've never known RC to be anything but extremely reliable and charitable.
DeleteReliable except when rumoring about "meetings" with a pope and bishop.
DeleteIf your speaking of SSPX meeting with Francis, its true.
DeleteDont believe what the neocons at CWP write
As I keep rinding people, there were these same kinds of denunciations when Campos, Good Shepherd and Papa Stronsay reconciled.
DeleteIndeed, more than significant!
DeleteIt is sad that Rorate Caeli stopped comments. It was my favourite blog but now I hardly ever visit the site. Such a shame
DeleteAlso, seems like they're still blogging to me.
ReplyDeleteTwo things: Rorate is still blogging and checking sources as well. And also all these things reported here were publicly posted by Fr. Geiger, one of the 5 who have wrought this devastation. He has long not been in favor of Rorate and has been vocal about it. Numbers out of Italy, by the way were in the neighborhood of 100 friars petitioning. And it was more than that that petitioned Ecclesia Dei. Notice that it says 10 % of the REMAINING friars. But the numbers have been false all along when it comes to how many support the founders, etc. They go along with the false accusations such as 'embezzlement'. To have a year dedicated to 'consecrated life' and they deconstruct such a holy and faithful Order shows the two faces coming from Rome.
ReplyDeleteThey Tweet.
DeleteThey also attempted to lighten the darkness of the last papacy, failing to accept him as a total liberal modernist who had a pragmatic view of traditionalism - using vestiges of it in hybrid manner to try make the protestant fabricated NO appear more Catholic than it actually is..
They fail to place the blame for the absolute ecclesiastical crisis where it is due - at the door of the papacies since 1965.
They like to appear as though they have a handle on SSPX affairs and appear as a leader in news about it. However, they do not understand the nature of Archbishop Lefebvre's Roman Catholicism confusing Bishop Fellay's misrepresentation of it with that of the great Archbishop. I used to blog under a different name early on in Rorate Caeli's career online and was shocked at how anti-SSPX they were then. Although they deny it, I know this because whenever I posted a pro-Society challenge it was often unpublished or its owners would contest my position from an antipathetic view using the "schismatic" thesis: some of them more than others. However, there was quite a paradigmatic shift as time went by. In the recent catastrophe inflicted on The Confraternity by Fellay I was clear he was on the road to nowhere but RC sticks to its untenable utopian view of being in "full communion" with Rome and ultimately asphyxiated, is preferable to being faijthful to Eternal Rome, the Rome of Sacred Tradition to which Archbishop Lefebvre adhered (that is until revisionism assumed control of the neo-SSPX vanguard)..
I have had very close relations with many inside The SSPX because my parents supported them from their foundation and were active in setting up a Holy Mass centre. However, they would have been shocked at Fellay's manoeuvres in light of the fact that The Vatican is more liberal modernist than ever and Archbishop Lefebvre would most certainly never have entered so easily into a situation with Ratzinger putting The Society in such danger, the outcome of which was predictable and has been the case: a split and internal dissension within.
You can check all the sources you like but if the rationale is defective, then it is of little use to anyone.
I still remain puzzled as to what the FFI are accused of which might justify what has happened. The "embezzlement" charge has surely been proved as without foundation. A preference for the EF hardly seems to be grounds for any action. The remaining one was a Lefebrvist attitude with some unknown ideas promoted by the Sisters. We are now told of " the participation of the Order in a critical review of the Council and its documents, and the post-conciliar period,". I think there was some book published by them. Can someone remind us what that was and some idea of what it said?
ReplyDeleteI recall mention of one of tne priests being an expert on ecclesiastical freemasonry. He was sent to a more remote location. Given that St. Maximilian Kolbe began wifh the intention of fighting against freemasonry, it makes sense that they would be persecuted for being faithful to their charism. Ave Maria..
ReplyDeleteReminder - St Maximilian Kolbe stated the ecumenism is the enemy of The Immaculata". Interestingly, at Akita, Our Blessed Lady admonished the compromises by the church and the internal divisions. She was not very pleased with Unholy Communion a la NO either - it is shocking how The Vatican ignores how Holy Communion was distributed by none other than Holy St Michael Archangel to the three Fatima seers.
DeleteIn other words, everything is done in NO church to disembowel The Roman Catholic Faith.
Rorate Coeli now reports that the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have been placed under a visitation as from 19th May. Is there any other confirmation of this in view of the doubts expressed on this about the accuracy of Rorate Coeli?
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DeleteI don't know about any confirmation but if Rorate Caeli said it I believe it to be true. When will the modernists cease to continue to place themselves outside of the Church. This is a job for Archbishop Mallaghan in his new post. I hope he seeks the excommunication of ALL those trying to destroy God's FFI's faithful servants. As traditionalists if anyone tries to destroy the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, we should take "Lay Active Participation" and hound them to oblivion.
DeleteThis "Visitation', prelude to attempted destruction of the sisters, seems to be the response from the Pope to his "presto, presto" response to Mr & Mrs Manelli, who pleaded with the Pope to "release their six Franciscan children from their Sepulcher". How humble, compassionate and merciful can one get?
ReplyDeleteFranciscan Sisters of the Immaculate:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXAfyZJv8ac