Monday, March 10, 2014

Hans Küng is "Overjoyed" About Pope Francis -- "No Need to be a Pope Critic Any More"

(Tübingen) In an interview with the Südwestpresse, the heretical Swiss theologian Hans Küng is thrilled by Pope Francis. "He has already achieved some things that can no longer be withdrawn," Küng is convinced. "It can not even be foreseen what the changes already initiated  mean."
Even for Hans Küng there seems to be doubt as to what course is  actually being pursued by the Argentine Pope. He has "joy" about the new Pope, but this is not detrimental. Although "not yet decided upon which course he will really strike out upon" but "to think that he was not a reformer, would be to close our eyes to the facts." The fact that Francis is a reformer, Küng is points directly to form. Rightly, he notes, "There is  control over the content. But if a Pope greets the people with "buona sera", that is a signal. "

The Pope "Is a Jesuit Priest and Therefore One Who Can Prevail"

The papal election was for him a "positive surprise", and he was "delighted,"  reported Küng. Francis "is a Jesuit priest and therefore one who can prevail."  Francis set the tone "even with his clothes - the abandonment of gold, lace and precious stones".  New he uses  "simple, direct language." "People understand him, and feel cared about,"  said Küng, convinced, given the deliberately ambiguous, vague language of the Pope. "I have made many proposals for reform in the course of my life. But that a Pope could leave the papal palace in such an elegant way.  I could not imagine. "

On Remarried Divorcees Followed Pope "a great strategy"

In terms of remarried divorcees Küng is convinced that Francis has pursued "a great strategy." "First of all he surveyed the group of eight cardinals, then the whole College of Cardinals. In the fall there will eventually be a synod on the family. Of course, every step is a risk. But if Francis has the College of Cardinals behind him, he is no longer alone. He lays total emphasis on collegiality. "Küng is convinced that "the admission of remarried divorcees to the sacraments" will be implemented, most of all desires of the Progressive reform. "There he is performing the mercy of which he so often speaks, and putting it into practice." On the question of how large "is resistance within the Church  to reform"  Küng replied. "This is not easy to judge because there are hardliners in Curia and Church. There are also among the laity resistance groups such as the conservative Catholic forum. But this Pope has  amazingly managed to win over many people of all stripes in  virtually no time for himself and his course."
Küng stresses himself to be for women priests, but  he sees its introduction as "more difficult"  than the "overcoming of celibacy."  For Küng,  "women's ordination" affirms the "justified appreciation" that Jesus "gave to women." The Swiss theologian notes at the same time, however, that the question "controversial". The "pastoral need of  communities" considering the shortage of priests might "force" its introduction.

"Hardliners" Try to Prevent "reforms"

Küng described opponents of his theories  as "hardliners" and "resistance groups", referring to among others, Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller and the Forum of German Catholics. He puts them in direct opposition to Pope Francis, it was "astonishingly successful" that  "many people are taking stock in no time at all for himself and his course."
The elevation of the Prefect of the CDF to the Cardinal's position was regarded by Küng as "inevitable." A non-survey "would have conjured up a confrontation that would serve no one." Apparently Küng sees  the possibility that a "reform" will be endangered in the "confrontation"  of Pope Francis, which he's identified with himself. So Küng emphasized immediately that Francis entrusted the introductory speech "not to Müller", but Cardinal Walter Kasper in a"significant way" at the Cardinal Consistory on the Family.

Kung's "Concern" in Front of a Shadow Pope Benedict XVI. "Reduced"

At the same time  Küng warns against "false compromises". The Swiss theologian seems worried that  a year after the resignation of Benedict XVI., this "could be a shadow of Pope." In his "recent letter I wrote Joseph Ratzinger," that he "sees  his only job as to help Francis by his prayer." This statement has "reduced" Küng's worry just a little.
Küng concludes the interview by saying, is "happy" about Pope Francis. He had "always said his profession is not as a critic of the Pope." . "So I'm delighted that I no longer have to act as a critic of the pope." But that all stays in place, he added immediately: "However, I stress: if there were a restoration again, I would be back to Pope critic" .
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: Clarin
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
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23 comments:

  1. Praise from a heretic - almost as significant as appearing on the cover-page of Rolling Stone and Time magazines.

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  2. It was at a conference in the mid–eighties that I listened to Hans Küng hold forth in triumphalist tones on the victory of the progressives. “We” control, he announced, the seminaries, the academic departments of theology, the catechetical and liturgical institutions, the publishing houses, the magazines that matter, and the chanceries. Most of the bishops, he said, are now on “our” side, and those who aren’t have been neutralized. Anyone who wants a future in the hierarchy or the Catholic academy has no choice but to cooperate, he observed. It was a clean sweep; all that was left were a few details; the disgruntled band of risibly reactionary dissidents from the new order didn’t understand what had happened and couldn’t do much about it.
    http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/the-catholic-center-21

    „Küng first pushed his notion of a global ethic at the United Nations in 1991 and then at the Parliament of World Religions in 1993. There the gathered religious leaders adopted the declaration “Towards a Global Ethic” which became a rallying cry both in UN documents and gatherings of international leaders culminating in the formation of the Earth Charter by former Russian President Mikhail Gorbachev and Canadian-born UN environmentalist guru Maurice Strong. The founding documents of the Earth Charter credit Küng’s global ethics with its underpinning.
    While the global ethics document is amorphous and open-ended, the Earth Charter is in favour of abortion under the UN code words of ‘reproductive’ health in relation to population control. The Charter’s resolution 7 calls all to “Adopt patterns of production, consumption, and reproduction that safeguard Earth’s regenerative capacities, human rights, and community well-being” and in subsection ‘e’ calls on people to “Ensure universal access to health care that fosters reproductive health and responsible reproduction.”
    The Earth Charter has been criticized as a “new age Ten Commandments” seeking to supersede religious moral codes. Indeed the Earth Charter website (www.earthcharter.org ) boasts of nearly 15,000 “Groups, organizations and individuals from around the world, representing millions of people” which have officially endorsed the Earth Charter.“
    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a-warning-against-false-world-religion-seen-in-popes-meeting-with-hans-kung

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    1. Hans Küng Foundation to Collaborate With Chicom Government for "Peace"
      http://eponymousflower.blogspot.de/2012/11/hans-kung-foundation-to-collaborate.html

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  3. It is not a good thing when a heretic says someone thinks like him.

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  4. Is this man still suspended a divinis?

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    1. Why? He hasn't offered The Mass of All Ages, has he?

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  5. The heretics and apostates and enemies of God and His Church are very happy at this time; those who love God and His Church are not so popular ...

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  6. How can the folks at "Catholic Answers" and traditional Catholic hating Karl Keating continue to play "everything is fine" when Hans Kung is jumping for joy???

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    1. That's because Hans Kung is wrong--as uaual.

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    2. I have been asking myself the same question.

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    3. The mass denial of the obvious truth is the surest sign of sickness. Who is the Father of all Lies?

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  7. Once again, as after Vatican II, the media twists what the Church teaches. Apparently at his age Kung didn't read that Pope Francis insists that he doesn't intend to change any of the Church's teachings, and that he gets along well with Pope-emeretis Benedict.

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  8. Hans Kung is pleased by our new Pope Francis?
    That's saying a lot about our Holy Father, in the mouth of an open heretic and apostate, and that's not at all a good sign for the Church.
    The next step: Kung will be made a cardinal.

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  9. That apostate priest Hans Kung is permitted remain a priest in good standing by the current pontiff and his two predecessors is an outright scandal.

    The failure to properly discipline heretical and errant priests rots the status
    of the hierarchy and papacy in the eyes of concerned lay catholics.

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    1. What is or how is an apostate defined ?

      Is it not a person refusing to follow their apostolic line preserved by the Popes?????

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  10. the church you people are talking about is the holy catholic kung church ! him and his followers , liberal catholic , American catholic , catholics for abortion , gay marriage , birth control , and a 100 other sins ! you can recognize them at HOLY MASS ? #1 THEY DON,T BELIEVE IN THE TRUE PRESENCE OF CHRIST , WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE HOST THEY ACT LIKE THEY ARE SOME WHERE ELSE . #2 THEY FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE , #3 THEY DON,T NEED CONFESSION , 5 PEOPLE AT CONFESSION SATURDAY NIGHT AND AT SUNDAY MASS 300 RECEIVE COMMUNION . #4 LIKE THEIR POPE HANS KUNG , THEY MAKE FUN OF THE POPE AND PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ! PRAY FOR OUR PRIEST WHO STAND AGAINST THESE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING ! GOD BLESS !

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  12. Where's the milk of human kindness guys. As a very lapsed catholic, I fully understand why I left the RCC behind and have not lived to regret it. Hans Kung is an academic and a philosopher and in academic circles all input has merit. Comments such as those create an autocracy in the Church hence the reason why many have fallen away. Let Francis do his work and let's see if he can walk the walk. He can certainly talk the talk. Time will tell. Be kind to your fellow man; I shouldn't have to remind you of your Leaders advice.

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    1. Plenty of people who share your moribund views, alas, haven't left the Church.

      If never ceases to amaze me how many lapsed, or secular "educated" people have advice for the Catholic Church.

      "You know, if they did away with that God stuff...what a nuisance that is!"

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    2. It is absolutely disrespectful and disgrace to call Küng a heretic! He is a brilliant theologian, one of the giants of the 20th century. He is a Catholic theologian in the broadest sense of the word, but not a Roman puppet. He is still an ordained Catholic priest, as far as I know, but not willing or allowed to teach ROMAN Catholic doctrine.

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  13. Some of you people would even call Dante a heretic, based on parts of the "Paradiso" where he attacks the legalistic Church, as does St. Catherine of Siena. So get off your soapboxes and wake up.

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    1. Let's not compare a bag of warm urine to a legitimate poet, ok?

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