(Rome) Some thoughts from Cordialiter to return to the traditional form of Roman Rite, the prerequisites and the relationship between a dignified celebration of the Novus Ordo and this return.Some years ago the traditional Abbé Claude Barthe was connected militant association Paix Liturgique for an interview. In it he said that the traditional Mass can not hope to return on a broad basis without a favorable climate in ordinary parishes. In this sense, he expressed the hope that the rite of Paul VI. will be celebrated as traditionally as possible and in accordance with the guidelines of the Second Vatican Council (ad Deum, kneeling Communion, Roman canon, Gregorian chant, etc.), thereby creating that friendly environment for the transition to the Tridentine rite.
I agree with Abbe Barthe, because experience shows that many of those who are in the past have focused around a worthy celebration of the Missal of Paul VI, have taken the step to the Roman Rite through the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum to the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite or are going to see it through. We think only of those like Don Alfredo Morselli, Don Nicola Bux, Father Stefano Manelli and many others. If all priests were celebrating the new Mass in its expected traditional sense, the Tridentine Mass would be today again the "ordinary" form of the Roman rite.
Moreover, it is, without a miracle, probably unthinkable that a priest who is used to torment the Sacred Liturgy by various abuses and disrespect, would suddenly decide to move to the traditional Mass.
Translation: Giuseppe Nardi Image: Una Fides Translation: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com ADMG
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The beauty, the mystery, the wonder, the exultation + .
Really? Not in my diocese. The pastor of the only parish with regularly scheduled TLMs has asked all priests in the diocese to deny all requests for additional Latin Masses-for "pastoral reasons" and they have complied. COmpletel contrary to Summorum Pontificum. It is the conservative Novus Ordo who do not want the Latin Mass to grow. Nope. Keep us Latin-Mass-Freaks in our 3 TLMs a week box, confined to 1 parish--with no Holy Day TLMs.
Reverent NO Masses actually closes the door to the Latin Mass, at least my diocese.
rjh
Well maybe you're right. Besides that's an old picture.
The Catholic Faithful have rights and they should be demanded. I would think that if this criminal denial of those rights were protested and protested loudly that there might be results. The Saint Joseph Foundation in Texas might be of some help in this. https://stjosephcanonlaw.com/
Even if you are the only one, there are almost always other places to go for the Holy Mass. Shake the dust from your feet and go find one.
Thank you Anonymous 3:48, I will look into it and discuss it with others in the Latin Mass community here.
On a side note, the reasoning behind being denied a holy day TLM is because it is "divisive." A reverent NO Mass is already made available and therefore no TLM is needed. TLMs are only offered in our diocese because, "the intention of the Holy Father in instituting Summorum Pontificum was to beautify and enrich the Mass of Paul VI. TLMs are offered (in our diocese) to remind us of our liturgical heritage." --Nothing more.
rjh
rjn, anonymous May 27 11:27, "Maybe you're are right". was a reply to you.
Sorry I didn't use 'Reply'.
Do you have names, dates, places and statements?
Yes. How about some confirmation.
This can only be good and right.
No matter how reverent the NO is, its collects are completely different from the traditional collects. They never mention sin, they never beg God for virtue, they are so full of the spirit of Vatican II, how great mankind is. The collects teach us to pray--I really count on them for that--the NO collects teach us just the opposite.
The NO is always protestant, vernacular, anthropocentric, fabricated by a freemason Bugnini (excommunicated latae sententiae) helped by protestant advisors and liberal modernist (enemies of the church according to Pope St Pius X). It is always detrimental to the Roman catholic faith because it is essentially not Catholic at all. the NO has divided the western Latin Rite Church because it is absolutely not Catholic. Pope St Pius V and the Trent Councils anathematised it in advance because they knew it was protestant and therefore poisonous to The Faith. Therefore, it cannot be reverent since it disobeys all the Church has traditionally taught us about the liturgy. It cannot encourage piety because we would love to do God's most Holy Will which is not to attend a potentially divisive and reductionist liturgical form that can harm our precious Faith. The NO has produced in two generations a massive loss in vocations and in obedience to The Faith as mass defections to the modernist post-conciliar church take place: actually by tens of thousands in many countries once deemed Catholic. To invent the idea we can create a totally new liturgical form employing vulgar tongue by inorganic means in 50 years, that nurtures the Roman Catholic Faith is an illusion. Even the church's own surveys demonstrate what i am saying here - massive loss of faith; mass defections; mass ignorance about what constitutes The faith and a massive increase in liturgical abuses. The post-conciliar church has bred an institution replete with presbyters who no longer believe in transubstantiation but alternative ideologies and ideas about what constitutes eucharist. the sooner the NO is abolished as a gross error of pastoral and liturgical judgment the better off the church will be. It has been disastrous.
LeonG: So right... The protestantization of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass done in the name of ecumenism, designed to draw protestants into the Holy Catholic Church. And what has happened? The protestants now think the Mass is no different from their own service so why change.
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