Will they get away with it too? Maybe it's ok when Leftist faculty are openly disobedient? In fact, St. John's University and St. Benedict haven't been Catholic in many years.
These institutions and their employees seem emboldened in light of the Abbey's own attempt at neutrality, to make a more definitive public statement in favor of what the Catechism of the Catholic Church has described as "intrinsically disordered". The Archbishop has asked for obsequy from his priests and religious and has even forbidden the openly disobedient priest, Bob Pierson, from speaking in his Archdiocese.
The undersigned below, constitute a substantial number of faculty members at Collegeville and St. Benedict's Benedictine Nunnery, seem convinced that their rebellion will have no consequences.
Note the faculty members who are in the Theology Department. This kind of dissent from Catholic teaching doesn't grow up over night and has been going on for decades with the collusion of the people who continue to support this Monastery gone wild, as Lifesite News so aptly put it this summer.
Of course, they are insisting that "new scientific" knowledge has thrown light on this issue which we are obliged to obey, although they haven't effectively demonstrated how that is supposed to work. What it is is plain modernism. More ironic still since there is no scientific research supporting their claims underlying their support for gomorrist weddings. On the contrary, there's an enormous amount of "scientific" evidence against such unions.
The Bishop's statement as follows:
CATHOLIC BISHOPS OF MINNESOTA: STATEMENT ON MARRIAGE
We, the Catholic Bishops of Minnesota, believe it is critical in our time to speak in support of marriage as a lifelong commitment between one man and one woman in an enduring bond of love. God’s word in divine revelation declares that marriage is a union ordered to both the mutual good of the spouses and to the procreation and raising of children. As a sacred institution, marriage is a constant reminder of God’s love for the human race, as well as a reflection of the permanent, faithful, and fruitful bond of love between Christ and the Church. (See Genesis 1:27, 2:22-24; Ephesians 5:31-32.)
Our own State’s constant recognition of marriage is based on the evident fact that only the sexual union of a man and a woman has the natural capability to bring forth new life with the bearing of children. Both faith and reason agree, then, that marriage is an institution central to the life of human society, and touches profoundly on the common good. This committed relationship between one man and one woman calls forth the best of the spouses, not only for their own sake, but also for the well-being of their children and the community. It is neither possible for us to change the definition of marriage nor wise to attempt to do so.
We urge our State government, our fellow Catholics, and all people of good will in the State of Minnesota to support marriage, both in theory and in practical measures that safeguard, promote, and enhance marriage and family. One practical measure would be a constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman. For further reading, see: Marriage: Love and Life in the Divine Plan, by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, 17 November 2009. See also the web site at www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/marriage/love-and-life/index.cfm
Here are the names of many people who are against the Archbishop's proposal and the Catholic Church's moral teachings, link, and we've highlighted the ones who are in the "Theology" department. Shouldn't someone who so violently challenges the authority of the Archbishop and the Church's teachings have their licentiate to teach theology revoked?
Vincent Smiles, Theology Andy Holey, Computer Science Michael Livingston, Psychology John Merkle, Theology Tony Cunningham, Philosophy Lisa Platt, Psychology Lindsay Anderson, Nursing Mike Ross, Chemistry Janet Grochowski, Education Rodger Narloch, Psychology Henry Jakubowski, Chemistry Janelle Hinchley, First Year Seminar & Gender Studies James Poff, Biology Phil Chu, Biology Gordon Brown, Biology Parker Wheatley, Economics Carol Brash, Fine Arts Karyl Daughters, Communication Gladys White, Hispanic Studies Ernest Diedrich, Economics Bruce Campbell, Hispanic Studies Ozzie Mayers, English Stephen Stelzner, Psychology Derek Larson, History & Environmental Studies Brian Campbell, Music Pam Bacon, Psychology Linda Tennison, Psychology Carol Jansky, Biology Clayton Gearhart, Physics (emeritus) Jonathon Carlson, Library Ingrid Smiles, CSB Campus Ministry David Wuolu, Library Wendy Klepetar, Global Business Leadership Benjamin Faber, Psychology William Lamberts, Biology Scott Richardson, Modern and Classical Languagues Samuel Johnson, Fine Arts Bruce Thornton, Music Jessica O’Reilly, Sociology Jessica Harkins, English Sigrid Hedman-Dennis, Nursing Thomas Sibley, Mathematics Matt Callahan, English Patricia Bolanos, Hispanic Studies & Gender Studies Kathleen Costello, First Year Seminar Erica Stonestreet, Philosophy Allison Spenader, Education Kelly Kraemer, Peace Studies Jennifer Galovich, Mathematics Bret Benesh, Mathematics Matthew Harkins, English Yuko Shibata, Modern and Classical Languages & Asian Studies Luann Reif, Nursing Maureen McCarter, Modern and Classical Languages Janna LaFountaine, Exercise Science and Sports Studies Carrie Braun, Nursing Marcus Webster, Biology Cynthia Curran, History James Schnepf, Computer Science Martha Tomhave Blauvelt, Gender Studies Tess Kasling, Library Karen Erickson, Modern and Classical Languages David Malone, Library Elizabeth Wurdak, Biology Gary Prevost, Political Science Juliann Heller, Theology Susan Riley, History Christi Siver, Political Science Kathy Twohy, Nursing Patricia Kennedy, Theology Robert Hesse, Mathematics Andrea Shaker, Fine Arts John Miller, Computer Science Elaine Rutherford, Fine Arts Sarah Schaaf, Hispanic Studies Manuel Campos, Biology Luke Mancuso, English Madhu Mitra, English Charles Wright, Philosphy Angela Erickson-Grussing, Hispanic Studies David Mitchell, Biology Jillian Hiscock, Admissions Richard Bohannon, Environmental Studies John Olson, Economics Jacqueline Corral, Admissions Joy Ruis, Office for Education Abroad Sarah Pruett, ESC Coordinator Eleonora Bertranou, Hispanic Studies Jillian RIgg McKenzie, Admissions Brooke Horejsi, Fine Arts Programing Christina Shouse Tourino, English Molly Ewing, Library Edmund Sass, Education Kaarin S. Johnston, Theater Jeffrey Anderson, Peace Studies Patricia Kent, Music Tania Gomez, Hispanic Studies Kathleen Parker, Library Cindy Malone, English Corey Shouse Tourino, Hispanic Studies Shane Miller, Communication Jean Keller, Philosophy Rachelle Larson, Nursing Nicholas Jones, Chemistry Mark Mortrude, Education Wendy Sterba, Modern and Classical Languages Jean Ochu, Accounting and Finance David Bennetts, History Shannon Essler Petty, Education Leigh Dillard, Theater Diane Veale-Jones, Environmental Studies Nelsy Echarvez-Solano, Hispanic Studies Timothy Robinson, Philosophy Matt Lindstrom, Political Science Elena Sanchez Mora, Hispanic Studies Jean Lavigne, Environmental Studies Michael Opitz, English Gregory Walker, Music Jennifer Schaefer, Biology Megan Vetsch, Fine Arts Programing Angeline Dufner, English (Emeritus) Joe Rogers, Global Education Kenneth Jones, History Janet Neuwirth, Nursing Anna Mercedes, Theology Bridget Sitzer, Admissions Allan Bouley, Theology (Emeritus) Michael Roske, Abbey Woodworking Peggy Roske, CSB/SJU Archives Philip Kronebusch, Political Science Peggy Retka, Office for Education Abroad Kevin Knodl, Fine Arts Programing Manju Parikh, Political Science J. Scott Johnson, Political Science Elisabeth Wengler, History Roy Ketchum, Hispanic Studies Stephen Wagner, Philosophy Beth Pettitt, Biology Lisa Drontle, Music Julie Davis, History Todd Johnson, Physics Robert Kachelski, Psychology Gregory Schroeder, History
These institutions are no longer Catholic. The Bishop should declare them non-Catholic and be done with it.
ReplyDeleteRegarding evidence, I believe the following should be of some interest to these ignoramuses:
An anthropologist by the name of J.D. Unwin initiated a study with the premise that marriage was not necessary and possibly even detrimental to the development of great societies. At the end of this study he completely reversed his hypothesis.
"Perhaps the definitive work on the rise and fall of civilizations," writes Fitzpatrick, "was published in 1934 by Oxford anthropologist J.D. Unwin":
In "Sex and Culture," Unwin studied 86 human civilizations ranging from tiny South Sea island principalities to mighty Rome. He found that a society's destiny is linked inseparably to the limits it imposes on sexual expression and that those sexual constraints correlate directly to its theological sophistication and religious commitment.
Unwin noted that the most primitive societies had only rudimentary spiritual beliefs and virtually no restrictions on sexual expression, whereas societies with more sophisticated theologies placed greater restrictions on sexual expression, and achieved greater social development.
In particular, cultures that adopt what Unwin dubbed "absolute monogamy" proved to be the most vigorous, economically productive, artistically creative, scientifically innovative and geographically expansive societies on earth.
The following are grave words for the USA that come from noted Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin who found no culture surviving once it ceased to support marriage and monogamy. None.
Now we can do a basic analysis of marriage in the USA. Current illegitimacy rates are as follows:
Black 73%
Hispanic 53%
White 29%
for an overall rate of 42%. The future of the USA has been written. Currently the rate of illegitimacy for women of all races under 30 is 53%.
“Once a society departs from a social norm of absolute marital monogamy, social chaos ensues within three generations.” — Anthropologist Joseph Daniel Unwin
Some statistics from single parent families
- Graduate from high school less frequently
- Suffer more addictions
- Suffer more abuse
- Twice as likely to become an alcoholic
- Three times more likely to have a baby out of wedlock
- Five times more likely to commit suicide
- Five times more likely to fall into poverty
- Twelve times more likely to be incarcerated.
Yet the Bishops don't. Perhaps they know something you don't know (which is a lot). Quite passing judgement - and you call yourself a Christian.
DeleteBy the way, the ignoramuses I was referring to were the dissenters from the Archbishop's proposal. Are you not passing judgment? You are condemning yourself by your own words. Think about it. I believe you meant to say "Quit (not Quite) passing judgment (not judgement)"
DeleteFurthermore, you state "Perhaps they know something you don't know (which is a lot). What is this "which is a lot". You make baseless statements without any facts.
1 Corinthians 2:15 But the spiritual man judgeth all things;
Here is another quote from Archbishop Sheen:
And finally, a LifeSiteNews reader sent us this excerpt from an address by Archbishop Fulton Sheen to the Supreme Convention of the Knights of Columbus in June 1972,
"Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and your religious act like religious."
Archbishop Sheen is obviously calling us to exercise judgment.
Another quote you might want to ponder:
Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household. (Matt 10:34-36)
Declare these institutions non-Catholic? How about firing these people, and repopulating the steeple?
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Don't cede territory to these heretics. Fire them all and replace them with orthodox Catholic teachers and administrators.
Deleteright on. get rid of all the heretics. who made them god? that they know more scietific crap than our Almighty God who is all knowing, all loving, These heretics are full of Satan's deceit.
DeleteBut...but...You'd practically empty the Vatican halls.
DeleteGreat idea. Too bad we aren't the CEO.
Unfortunately only the Board of Trustees can hire and fire.
DeleteThey do have tenure and contracts to deal with.
The Board made the mess, its up to them to fix it.
The Bishops recourse is stated in the post of Nov 1, 11:58am.
I certainly would not allow my children or grandchildren to attend either "Catholic" college.
ReplyDeleteI doubt they would want your know-it-all grandkids.
DeleteWhich "Catholic" college are you going to send them to? Are you prepared to ask each Catholic YOU choose for your future generations about their policy on such matters? Are you able to discern how many of the more righteous colleges have faculty members who would also sign such a document? I'm guessing there are about three in the country. Time will show that you and the bishops are (once again) on the wrong side of history. Ask Galileo. Talk about one institution that is ill-prepared to speak about matters of sexuality ... and matters of the universe.
DeleteThere are no righteous faculty members who would sign a document recommending disobedience to the Archbishop and mortal sin.
DeleteBest to pack up and work at a non-Catholic college, or better yet, just strip St. John's and St. Benedict's of their Catholic association.
I went to this school. I grew up 10 miles from these schools. My two siblings went here too.
ReplyDeleteThis place is known locally as "the gay commune.". It is a place famous for taking students with a fragile or lukewarm faith, and driving out of them. To the tune of $30,000 per year.
Fr. Richard John Neuhaus called it "a training camp for liturgical terrorists."
I wish I were surprised. I'm merely disappointed the bishop (now retired) didn't do something more earlier.
Each Bishop has the authority to remove the name "Catholic" from any organization (including Universities) within his Diocese.
ReplyDeleteEach Bishop per Code of Canon Law must require that anyone teaching theology sign a MANDATUM which states they will only teach in accord with the teachings of the Church and be faithful to the Magisterium.
Each Bishop should require that in order to use the name 'Catholic' that the "CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Edition" be one required student text for freshman or sophomores if they wish to retain their status as being "Catholic".
For more info on the "CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Edition", go to: http://whatcatholicsreallybelieve.com or search: "What Catholics REALLY Believe SOURCE".
It's past time for appropriate enforcement of Canon 915, and/or excommunication of Catholic HERETICS and SCHISMATICS.
1 Cor 5:11-13.
CCC: " 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. "
DeleteCCC: " 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained.
Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity.
Under no circumstances can they be approved. "
Footnotes in CCC: Gen: 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:9-10; 1 Tim 1:10.
While we're waiting for the Catholic authorities to do something about it, it wouldn't hurt to stop giving money to this place, and continue to encourage these individuals to be honest with themselves and go teach at Lutheran or secular schools, where they won't feel so much of a conflict of interest.
ReplyDeleteYou people think these are the ONLY Catholic colleges where many, many faculty and staff disagree with the Catholic Church on this issue? Just watch the newspapers at the other Catholic colleges in Minnesota. Ask the faculty and staff at those colleges where they stand. There isn't a one of them where the faculty and staff are any different than these two places. And, there are about three colleges in the nation that would satisfy you and your false gods (the bishops). How one can possibly imagine that a supremely, powerful god could really care about such trivial matters (of sexuality) is beyond my comprehension.
ReplyDeleteYou might feel convinced about your position, but it's not a Catholic position. No one's saying you can't think these thoughts, as irrational as they are, but you stretch credulity when you attempt to pass them off as Catholic thoughts.
DeleteNo one's stopping you from forming your own church based on sexual immorality, or whatever you deceive yourself into calling it.
I started reading a book about Merv Griffin. Turns out Archbishop Sheen liked "helping young men" he carried on an affair with Merv when he was in his late teens and early 20s.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Merv Griffin...
DeleteAre you kidding?! Merv never came clean about being a queen--OOOOH YESSSS!
ReplyDelete