Edit: This is really what's at the heart of a few professional Catholics' denunciations of Voris. There's nothing substantial there. It's this Dogma that the world and the Devil hate so much.
Michael Voris Hits the Jackpot…that is, “the dogma”- Brother André Marie MICM
RealCatholicTV affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
Outside the Church there is no Salvation (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)
“Outside the Church there is no salvation” (extra ecclesiam nulla salus) is a doctrine of the Catholic Faith that was taught By Jesus Christ to His Apostles, preached by the Fathers, defined by popes and councils and piously believed by the faithful in every age of the Church. Here is how the Popes defined it:
• “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
• “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
• “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)
But man, following the example of his natural father, Adam, often disobeys the authority of God. The fact that the doctrine had to be thrice defined itself proves the Church’s paternal solicitude in correcting her erring children who fall into indifferentism. The first goal of Saint Benedict Center’s doctrinal Crusade is to defend this doctrine. We present here a selection of various articles written for that end.
Here are some recommended starting points on this all-important subject:
• The Popes on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
• The Fathers of the Church on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
• Doctrinal Summary
• Sentimental Theology
• Pelagius Lives
• Our Status in the Church (focusing on the doctrinal stance of Saint Benedict Center and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary) –from the website Catholicism.org -Lionel Andrades -mail:lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Thursday, December 1, 2011 INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS DO GO TO HELL UNLESS THEY CONVERT INTO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH Individual Protestants do go to Hell and cannot go to Heaven unless they convert into the Catholic Church is the teaching of the Church.
On Real Catholic TV Michael Vorris says “Individual Protestants (0.32).go to Hell and cannot go to Heaven this is not what we are saying. I do not know if I am going to Heaven or Hell. How do I know the destiny of anyone else. Protestantism is a heresy.' We know all individual Protestants are oriented to Hell (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence).Vatican Council II has the same teaching.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7(emphasis added)
The Church teaches that all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water- all Protestants.
So all Protestants on earth de facto need to enter the Church to avoid Hell.
The Church also teaches that there can be some non Catholics who can be saved in invincible ignorance. These cases are unknown to us on earth. It is only God who can decide who is in invincible ignorance. So this teaching is not an exception to the dogma or Ad Gentes 7. All non Catholics, Protestants included need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell. -Lionel Andrades
Michael Voris Hits the Jackpot…that is, “the dogma”- Brother André Marie MICM
ReplyDeleteRealCatholicTV affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
Outside the Church there is no Salvation (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)
“Outside the Church there is no salvation” (extra ecclesiam nulla salus) is a doctrine of the Catholic Faith that was taught By Jesus Christ to His Apostles, preached by the Fathers, defined by popes and councils and piously believed by the faithful in every age of the Church. Here is how the Popes defined it:
• “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
• “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
• “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)
But man, following the example of his natural father, Adam, often disobeys the authority of God. The fact that the doctrine had to be thrice defined itself proves the Church’s paternal solicitude in correcting her erring children who fall into indifferentism. The first goal of Saint Benedict Center’s doctrinal Crusade is to defend this doctrine. We present here a selection of various articles written for that end.
Here are some recommended starting points on this all-important subject:
• The Popes on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
• The Fathers of the Church on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
• Doctrinal Summary
• Sentimental Theology
• Pelagius Lives
• Our Status in the Church (focusing on the doctrinal stance of Saint Benedict Center and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary) –from the website Catholicism.org
-Lionel Andrades
-mail:lionelandrades10@gmail.com
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/09/michael-voris-hits-jackpotthat-is-dogma.html#links
Thursday, December 1, 2011
ReplyDeleteINDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS DO GO TO HELL UNLESS THEY CONVERT INTO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Individual Protestants do go to Hell and cannot go to Heaven unless they convert into the Catholic Church is the teaching of the Church.
On Real Catholic TV Michael Vorris says “Individual Protestants (0.32).go to Hell and cannot go to Heaven this is not what we are saying. I do not know if I am going to Heaven or Hell. How do I know the destiny of anyone else. Protestantism is a heresy.'
We know all individual Protestants are oriented to Hell (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence).Vatican Council II has the same teaching.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7(emphasis added)
The Church teaches that all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water- all Protestants.
So all Protestants on earth de facto need to enter the Church to avoid Hell.
The Church also teaches that there can be some non Catholics who can be saved in invincible ignorance. These cases are unknown to us on earth. It is only God who can decide who is in invincible ignorance. So this teaching is not an exception to the dogma or Ad Gentes 7.
All non Catholics, Protestants included need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell.
-Lionel Andrades
http://youtu.be/cbt-oic4hWY